latency-test fine but axis complains
10 Sep 2013 14:53 #38595
by ArcEye
Before too long there will be a version of Linuxcnc that will run on rt-preempt, rtai, xenomai and more.
It is in testing currently and works with the debian 7.1 precompiled rt kernel, with previous caveats.
This version is what I am running currently, albeit on a homebrew 3.5.7-rtai kernel
The idea is exactly as you say, install the realtime system of your choice and then fetch linuxcnc to run on it
thus breaking the link between distro and application, opening up the possibilty of Linuxcnc being part of mainstream distros
and just fetched from their servers.
More work to be done yet, but it is getting there.
The difficult bit is not getting it to work, it already does. It is bundling it so that the user can just install with no knowledge
of kernel, realtime and application building.
regards
Replied by ArcEye on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
"apt-get install linuxcnc" would be really nice, however.
Before too long there will be a version of Linuxcnc that will run on rt-preempt, rtai, xenomai and more.
It is in testing currently and works with the debian 7.1 precompiled rt kernel, with previous caveats.
This version is what I am running currently, albeit on a homebrew 3.5.7-rtai kernel
The idea is exactly as you say, install the realtime system of your choice and then fetch linuxcnc to run on it
thus breaking the link between distro and application, opening up the possibilty of Linuxcnc being part of mainstream distros
and just fetched from their servers.
More work to be done yet, but it is getting there.
The difficult bit is not getting it to work, it already does. It is bundling it so that the user can just install with no knowledge
of kernel, realtime and application building.
regards
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10 Sep 2013 21:11 #38619
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
I can't wait for that to happen.
Thanks
JT
Thanks
JT
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11 Sep 2013 01:29 #38639
by tatel
Yes, unified build candidate worked for me with rt-preempt, too.
However, I see that apt-get users will very probably use rt-preempt, not RTAI, since rt-preempt is already in the repositories, and it does not seem that RTAI will be there in the foreseable future.
Well, at the very least, this capability will hopefully make linuxcnc much more mainstream, wich is a GoodThing IMHO. Thanks to all the people that contributed to make it possible. When I see my mill working, I feel my ass becoming sugar...
Ciao,
Replied by tatel on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
It is in testing currently and works with the debian 7.1 precompiled rt kernel, with previous caveats.
This version is what I am running currently, albeit on a homebrew 3.5.7-rtai kernel
The idea is exactly as you say, install the realtime system of your choice and then fetch linuxcnc to run on it
Yes, unified build candidate worked for me with rt-preempt, too.
However, I see that apt-get users will very probably use rt-preempt, not RTAI, since rt-preempt is already in the repositories, and it does not seem that RTAI will be there in the foreseable future.
Well, at the very least, this capability will hopefully make linuxcnc much more mainstream, wich is a GoodThing IMHO. Thanks to all the people that contributed to make it possible. When I see my mill working, I feel my ass becoming sugar...
Ciao,
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25 May 2015 23:35 #59021
by Fit0
Replied by Fit0 on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
Hi ArcEye, re. the Matrox card, is there anything you need to do, other than fit it in a free pci slot and plug your monitor to it, for latency to go down? If there is anything that needs inputting in terminal, would you please let me know?
I ordered a pci G550 and need to know for when it arrives.
Thanks in advance.
I ordered a pci G550 and need to know for when it arrives.
Thanks in advance.
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26 May 2015 13:45 #59061
by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
The card I used was an AGP one, just 32MB, not used PCI.
It should be recognised and the standard open source drivers loaded.
You probably need to activate it in BIOS, which will default to the on-board chip.
regards
It should be recognised and the standard open source drivers loaded.
You probably need to activate it in BIOS, which will default to the on-board chip.
regards
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04 Jun 2015 16:56 #59419
by Fit0
Replied by Fit0 on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
Thanks for your reply ArcEye.
By the way, the card arrived, I fitted it, connected the monitor to it, checked the BIOs and found that the Matrox graphics card was automatically enabled and the onboard graphics disabled. All good, apparently.
However, I found that there was quite a bit of lag when opening programmes, the video was pretty jerky and, most importantly, when I ran the latency test, jitter was even higher than with the onboard card, at a steady 27000 or so, whereas the onboard card gave a less steady jitter, but never going above 21000 in the same conditions.
What's going on here?
By the way, the card arrived, I fitted it, connected the monitor to it, checked the BIOs and found that the Matrox graphics card was automatically enabled and the onboard graphics disabled. All good, apparently.
However, I found that there was quite a bit of lag when opening programmes, the video was pretty jerky and, most importantly, when I ran the latency test, jitter was even higher than with the onboard card, at a steady 27000 or so, whereas the onboard card gave a less steady jitter, but never going above 21000 in the same conditions.
What's going on here?
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04 Jun 2015 19:56 #59431
by ArcEye
The card was an AGP one and the computer a Fujitsu Seimens P4, yours are undoubtably is different.
I was also running a home-brew uni processor rtai kernel
Unfortunately I was just reporting what worked for me, on quite an old thread.
Just illustrated that taking the video load off the CPU and RAM, can sometimes be the difference with latency
I know other people have tried it with similar computers and it worked for them too
Obviously not in your case
Replied by ArcEye on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
What's going on here?
The card was an AGP one and the computer a Fujitsu Seimens P4, yours are undoubtably is different.
I was also running a home-brew uni processor rtai kernel
Unfortunately I was just reporting what worked for me, on quite an old thread.
Just illustrated that taking the video load off the CPU and RAM, can sometimes be the difference with latency
I know other people have tried it with similar computers and it worked for them too
Obviously not in your case
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04 Jun 2015 20:32 #59433
by Fit0
Replied by Fit0 on topic latency-test fine but axis complains
Apparently so
Oh well, I guess I'll just live with the on board graphics card and the circa 20k base thread latency, which I understand is acceptable anyway.
Oh well, I guess I'll just live with the on board graphics card and the circa 20k base thread latency, which I understand is acceptable anyway.
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