linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
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09 Mar 2014 03:34 #44584
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linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM was created by somenewguy
So I am wanting to get SIM up and running on my new arch install, as I am trying really hard to mirgrate away from ubuntu. My shop computer still runs ubuntu and will untill a full release, but that is neither here nor there currently.
Anyways the current build instructions don't seem apropriate for an arch system, and I can't find any arch-specific guides on how to do this. CAN it be done currently? is it beyone the average user? if I succede I will try and write up a guide, but without help I am pretty confident I will fail. otherwise it lookes like a VM is in my future.
Anyways the current build instructions don't seem apropriate for an arch system, and I can't find any arch-specific guides on how to do this. CAN it be done currently? is it beyone the average user? if I succede I will try and write up a guide, but without help I am pretty confident I will fail. otherwise it lookes like a VM is in my future.
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09 Mar 2014 14:47 #44593
by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
Hi,
If you want to use Arch Linux, I am afraid you are on your own.
You will be able to build sources but you will probably have difficulties getting all the required libraries built and in place.
If you want a lighter distro, I would suggest using Debian and customising it.
That is what I have done, I lost patience with Ubuntu's slow clunky gnome interface a long time back.
With a fast window manager and minimal display manager, Debian 7 runs fine on a P4, all my workshop machines run it
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If you want to use Arch Linux, I am afraid you are on your own.
You will be able to build sources but you will probably have difficulties getting all the required libraries built and in place.
If you want a lighter distro, I would suggest using Debian and customising it.
That is what I have done, I lost patience with Ubuntu's slow clunky gnome interface a long time back.
With a fast window manager and minimal display manager, Debian 7 runs fine on a P4, all my workshop machines run it
regards
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09 Mar 2014 23:11 #44604
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I was afraid of that. The shop PC will always run the suggested/supported OS so I guess Debian it will be in the future, but at home I runarch and needed a sim, dang. I'll probably try for another day or two before I quit. I just can't quite figure out how to check all dependencies.
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10 Mar 2014 00:27 #44606
by ArcEye
On most systems ldd will list the dependencies of a binary or lib
That side of it is really the strength of Debian and Ubuntu and other distros which are based on Debian.
The package management plus the huge number of pre compiled libraries makes it much easier to get things running.
I can remember the days, not that long back, when you had to download the sources and compile your own libs for anything a bit out of the ordinary.
Another way to get a picture of what dependencies you might need, is to use your existing Ubuntu installation and use apt-rdepends on a package, say the buildbot sim package
That will give you quite a lot of info on the dependency chain
www.howtoforge.com/finding-out-package-d...nds-on-debian-ubuntu
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Replied by ArcEye on topic linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
I just can't quite figure out how to check all dependencies.
On most systems ldd will list the dependencies of a binary or lib
That side of it is really the strength of Debian and Ubuntu and other distros which are based on Debian.
The package management plus the huge number of pre compiled libraries makes it much easier to get things running.
I can remember the days, not that long back, when you had to download the sources and compile your own libs for anything a bit out of the ordinary.
Another way to get a picture of what dependencies you might need, is to use your existing Ubuntu installation and use apt-rdepends on a package, say the buildbot sim package
That will give you quite a lot of info on the dependency chain
www.howtoforge.com/finding-out-package-d...nds-on-debian-ubuntu
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11 Mar 2014 08:13 #44647
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mannnnn, I spent the last two months getting my feet under me in arch, but nowthat I am having trouble building both linuxcnc and slic3r, my sails arequite deflated. I am thinking a non-ubuntu debian distro is calling my name. I was hoping learning arch would make mea man, instead it looks like it cost me a month or so of my life.
we'll give it another week or two before I make up my mind. no sim I can live with, but I need slic3r on my workhorse again.
we'll give it another week or two before I make up my mind. no sim I can live with, but I need slic3r on my workhorse again.
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11 Mar 2014 23:15 #44678
by andypugh
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Is Lubuntu a workable half-way-house?
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20 Mar 2014 00:23 #44983
by somenewguy
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yeah I guess so, I might roll that out onall my machiens this week. Either that or virtual box. I am too injured to work currently, so computer games are a good use of time till I heal enough to get back into the shop
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07 May 2014 03:48 #46662
by cgo
Replied by cgo on topic linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
Hi,
there's a package for linuxcnc-sim in AUR:
aur.archlinux.org/packages/linuxcnc-sim
If you have yaourt installed you can do:add this to PKGBUILD at the end of package():
Then type:
Built today, works well.
However I have some trouble building the RTAI version, but that's another story.
there's a package for linuxcnc-sim in AUR:
aur.archlinux.org/packages/linuxcnc-sim
If you have yaourt installed you can do:
yaourt -G linuxcnc-sim
cd linuxcnc-sim
mkdir $pkgdir/usr/lib/tcllib
ln -s /usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc $pkgdir/usr/lib/tcllib/linuxcnc
Then type:
makepkg # builds the package
pacman -U linuxcnc-sim.....pkg.xz # installs the package
Built today, works well.
However I have some trouble building the RTAI version, but that's another story.
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07 May 2014 05:01 - 07 May 2014 05:03 #46665
by cgo
Replied by cgo on topic linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
Hi again,
I just managed to build and run linuxcnc 2.7.0 (well, git master) on Archlinux with RTAI 4.0.
Here are the necessary changes:
1/ fix python path to use python2
2/ fix src/hal/Submakefile to link to the RTAI libs
3/ fix src/task/Submakefile to link to the RTAI libs
(patch attached for RTAI installed in /opt/rtai)
Then build with:
.(change /opt/rtai with wherever your realtime lies)
sample PKGBUILD also attached.
This assumes you already have a RTAI kernel up and running (don't forget to edit /etc/ld.so.conf for /opt/rtai/lib)
I just managed to build and run linuxcnc 2.7.0 (well, git master) on Archlinux with RTAI 4.0.
Here are the necessary changes:
1/ fix python path to use python2
2/ fix src/hal/Submakefile to link to the RTAI libs
3/ fix src/task/Submakefile to link to the RTAI libs
(patch attached for RTAI installed in /opt/rtai)
Then build with:
.
/autogen.sh
./configure --with-realtime=/opt/rtai --without-libmodbus --prefix=/usr --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.7
make
sample PKGBUILD also attached.
This assumes you already have a RTAI kernel up and running (don't forget to edit /etc/ld.so.conf for /opt/rtai/lib)
Last edit: 07 May 2014 05:03 by cgo. Reason: mv PKGBUILD to PKGBUILD.txt
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26 Jun 2014 01:57 #48245
by yoshco
Replied by yoshco on topic linuxcnc on arch, specifically SIM
@cgo
thank for your work, currntly its the most info i found on the subject
but still.. i would appreciate if you could expand on this. im running arch for a few weeks...
1. how did you get RTAI to work ? did you use the AUR method?
aur.archlinux.org/packages/rtai-kernel/
i dont want to install this as it was last touched at 2011
here is where i got so far
1. clone from git
# cd /usr/local/bin
# git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
i hope with the community help we can get this working for all (me:))
thank for your work, currntly its the most info i found on the subject
but still.. i would appreciate if you could expand on this. im running arch for a few weeks...
1. how did you get RTAI to work ? did you use the AUR method?
aur.archlinux.org/packages/rtai-kernel/
i dont want to install this as it was last touched at 2011
here is where i got so far
1. clone from git
# cd /usr/local/bin
# git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
i hope with the community help we can get this working for all (me:))
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