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08 Sep 2020 07:47 - 08 Sep 2020 09:05 #181215 by Adik A.
Replied by Adik A. on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
Hello again,

I decided to compare jitter under kernel 5.6.19-rt12, v4.14.175 and v4.19.114. I wanted v4.19.14, because supports Intel UHD 630 graphics (Intel i5-9500).

I'm stuck at the stage of compiling rtai-modules:
cat /etc/linuxmint/info
RELEASE=19.3
CODENAME=tricia
EDITION="Xfce"
DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia"
DESKTOP=Gnome
TOOLKIT=GTK
NEW_FEATURES_URL=https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_tricia_xfce_whatsnew.php
RELEASE_NOTES_URL=https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_tricia_xfce.php
USER_GUIDE_URL=https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation.php
GRUB_TITLE=Linux Mint 19.3 Xfce
root@mint-linuxcnc:~/RTAI-master/ksrc# uname -a
Linux mint-linuxcnc 4.19.114-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 8 09:07:06 CEST 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
cd ~/RTAI-master
./autogen.sh
./configure
debian/configure 4.19.114 rtai amd64
dpkg-buildpackage

Error:
In file included from ./include/linux/compat.h:16:0,
                 from ./arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/internal.h:14,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai_fpu.h:191,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai_hal.h:61,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai.h:23,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/rtai.h:27,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/src/sched/rtai_hal.c:75:
./include/linux/if.h:28:10: fatal error: sys/socket.h: There is no such file or directory
 #include <sys/socket.h>   /* for struct sockaddr.  */
          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~

a bit earlier:
libtool: link: gcc -o calibrate calibrate-calibrate.o  -lpthread
test -e include/generated/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || (	\
echo >&2;							\
echo >&2 "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";		\
echo >&2 "         include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.";\
echo >&2 "         Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.";	\
echo >&2 ;							\
/bin/false)

Has anyone successfully compiled the rtai-modules for v.4.19.14 and knows how to correct this error?

Under the v4.14.175 rtai-modules compiles w/o problems, jitter is great, but graphics acceleration does not work for my i5-9500 CPU. I also can't set the resolution to 1920x1080px.

Graphics card UHD 630 under kernel v.4.19.14 works OK, unfortunately I can't compile the RTAI modules.
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08 Sep 2020 08:03 #181219 by BeagleBrainz
Replied by BeagleBrainz on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
Are you wanting the RTAI kernel or the RT_PREEMPT kernel ?

And as far as I know Andy & others have done a lot of work on getting a RTAI kernel to work with Linuxcnc.

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08 Sep 2020 08:07 #181220 by Adik A.
Replied by Adik A. on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
Hello BeagleBrainz

RTAI: github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI/archive/master.zip

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08 Sep 2020 08:16 #181222 by BeagleBrainz
Replied by BeagleBrainz on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
What hardware are you going to be using to control your machine ?
I think it may be helpful if you state your goal and the hardware you hope to use with Linuxcnc ie: Mesa or Parallel port. As you have been jumping back & forth between RTAI & RT_PREEMPT.

As far as I know there is only one rtai version that will work with Linuxcnc, as I said before there as been a lot of work into getting Linuxcnc & the rtai kernel to work.

As it stands the current rtai kernel that is known to work with linuxcnc can have limited graphics.

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08 Sep 2020 08:53 - 08 Sep 2020 09:00 #181224 by Adik A.
Replied by Adik A. on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
Hardware: Mesa 7i76e card.

I'm waiting for the delivery of DYN4 servo drives from DMM.

For my config (Core i5-9500, M.2 SSD, mini-itx mainboard) RTAI with kernel 4.x offers lower jitter (13us), RT_PREEMPT with kernel 5.6.19 jitter jumps to 80-100us.
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08 Sep 2020 09:20 - 08 Sep 2020 09:21 #181225 by BeagleBrainz
Replied by BeagleBrainz on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
You want RT_PREEMPT for Mesa ethernet. Your latency is fine.

YOU NEED TO USE RT_PREEMPT

DO NOT YOU USE RTAI FOR MESA ETHERNET

On my Lenovo T530 using my Mint 19.2 install.
running
latency-histogram --nobase
gives the follwoing
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08 Sep 2020 09:37 #181226 by Adik A.
Replied by Adik A. on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
ok, so the conclusion: with Mesa Ethernet cards jitter is not as important as with a parallel connection right?

I tried your Linux Mint 19 repository but unfortunately there is a download error. I posted a log in the appropriate topic.

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14 Dec 2020 08:18 #191943 by mirkap
Replied by mirkap on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed

Hello again,
...

Error:
In file included from ./include/linux/compat.h:16:0,
                 from ./arch/x86/include/asm/fpu/internal.h:14,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai_fpu.h:191,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai_hal.h:61,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/asm/rtai.h:23,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/include/rtai.h:27,
                 from /root/src/RTAI-master/src/sched/rtai_hal.c:75:
./include/linux/if.h:28:10: fatal error: sys/socket.h: There is no such file or directory
 #include <sys/socket.h>   /* for struct sockaddr.  */
          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~

a bit earlier:
libtool: link: gcc -o calibrate calibrate-calibrate.o  -lpthread
test -e include/generated/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || (	\
echo >&2;							\
echo >&2 "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";		\
echo >&2 "         include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.";\
echo >&2 "         Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.";	\
echo >&2 ;							\
/bin/false)

Has anyone successfully compiled the rtai-modules for v.4.19.14 and knows how to correct this error?
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Hi,

I have exactly the same problem.

I try to compile RTAI 5.2.3. on Debian distro kernel 4.19.152.
I want to use RTAI with parallel port.

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14 Dec 2020 09:05 #191945 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
linuxcnc.org/downloads/
The 2.8 Buster 10 RTAI section.

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14 Dec 2020 20:12 #191977 by mirkap
Replied by mirkap on topic Xubuntu 18.04.5 + kernel 5.6.19-rt12 | rtai-modules-5.6.19-rt12 missed
There is no 4.19.152

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