Can not install LINUX CNC

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31 Jul 2021 18:20 #216472 by pedro
Hi,
My name is Rui and iḿ new to linux CNC.
First time installing.
Iḿ trying to install in a old machine   INTEL Pentium D 940 3.2Ghz  with  2Gb RAM .
Graphic card is NVIDIA GEFORCE 7300 GS .
The machine as two discs 320 Gb and 160Gb , they are formatted .
I Download the 2.7.14 ISO the 2.8.0 ISO and the 2.8.2 ISO and Burn 3 DVD.
I can open the  LIVE CNC LINUX and use for example the Latency test and everything with in  the 3 DVD images  2.7.14 or 2.8.0 or 2.8.2 .
But when i try to install or graphical install, it starts reading the DVD and one minute after it freze and the monitor gets blank.
it happens with the 3 DVD images.
Any idea what iḿ doing wrong? Some very basic stupidity?
Any help is welcome
Below some information from the machine  with the 2.8.2 ISO live DVD.

user@debian:~$ lscpu
Architecture:        x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):      32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:          Little Endian
Address sizes:       36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):              2
On-line CPU(s) list: 0,1
Thread(s) per core:  1
Core(s) per socket:  2
Socket(s):           1
NUMA node(s):        1
Vendor ID:           GenuineIntel
CPU family:          15
Model:               6
Model name:          Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz
Stepping:            4
CPU MHz:             2800.000
CPU max MHz:         3200.0000
CPU min MHz:         2400.0000
BogoMIPS:            6400.33
Virtualization:      VT-x
L1d cache:           16K
L2 cache:            2048K
NUMA node0 CPU(s):   0,1
Flags:               fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts nopl cpuid pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est cid cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow
user@debian:~$

user@debian:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Attansic L2 Fast Ethernet (rev a0)
user@debian:~$  
user@debian:~$ uname -r
4.19.0-17-rt-amd64
user@debian:~$

user@debian:~$ cat /proc/partitions
major minor  #blocks  name

   8        0  312571224 sda
   8        1  312569856 sda1
   8       16  156290904 sdb
   8       17  156289024 sdb1
  11        0    2130220 sr0
   7        0    1051564 loop0
user@debian:~$

Regards
Rui Meirinho


 

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31 Jul 2021 19:07 #216477 by pedro
Replied by pedro on topic Can not install LINUX CNC
Just try to install in a new machine RYZEN 5 16 Gb RAm and the ISO DVD 2.8.2 , works perfectly, just did not finished the installation because it is my PC for working with SUSE LINUX.
So i think that it may be something related to the hardware, maybe the processor 32 bit or 64 bit version? Or graphic card?, i will try to change the graphic card.
Regards,
Rui meirinho

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31 Jul 2021 20:20 #216485 by pedro
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Changed the graphic card to another, but  the same result.
Now i burned another ISO  he  ubuntu-10.04-linuxcnc3-i386.iso   and it is installed and working.
The processor is 32 bit ........
Is there any way to get a ISO from the new CNC inux in 32 bit?
Regards,
Rui Meirinho

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31 Jul 2021 20:34 - 31 Jul 2021 20:45 #216489 by arvidb
Replied by arvidb on topic Can not install LINUX CNC
Pentium D is a 64-bit processor, if I'm not mistaken? So that shouldn't be the problem?

Can you install the "vanilla" debian OS ? You could try for instance the 64-bit Debian 10 Xfce CD .

Edit: If the "vanilla" Debian 10 (Buster) install works, you should then be able to install linuxcnc and the Preempt-RT kernel by following these instructions.
Last edit: 31 Jul 2021 20:45 by arvidb.
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31 Jul 2021 22:44 #216521 by pedro
Replied by pedro on topic Can not install LINUX CNC
Hi,
Just burned another ISO debian-live-10.10.0-amd64-xfce.iso.
Try to make graphical installation and the same thing happened, the DVD starts reading and about 1min after it stop and the screen goes blank .
The live Debian boots ok, and i can use the Debian from the DVD.
Some information from the Debian.

user@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 4.19.0-17-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.194-1 (2021-06-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux
user@debian:~$

user@debian:~$ lscpu
Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
Address sizes: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s): 2
On-line CPU(s) list: 0,1
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 2
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 15
Model: 6
Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz
Stepping: 4
CPU MHz: 2800.000
CPU max MHz: 3200.0000
CPU min MHz: 2400.0000
BogoMIPS: 6399.90
Virtualization: VT-x
L1d cache: 16K
L2 cache: 2048K
NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0,1
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts nopl cpuid pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est cid cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow
user@debian:~$ una
unalias uname

Trying to make the installation in non Graphical mode.
Now it is making the installation off the software but in non graphical mode.
It look that it is installing ok. 20 % 50% 80% 100% rebooting .
And it is booting the Debian 10.10.0 .
Now just need to o install linuxcnc and the Preempt-RT kernel .
Tomorrow i will continue and i will give news when finished.

Thanks,

Regards
Rui Meirinho

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01 Aug 2021 00:02 #216534 by tommylight
Try this, although a bit outdated it just might work and save you a lot of time.
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01 Aug 2021 14:26 #216606 by pedro
Replied by pedro on topic Can not install LINUX CNC
Hi,
Just installed the new RT KERNEL
But it looks that the key is not valid.
root@debian:/home/rui# sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.openpgp.org --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.GNogrTKoNq/gpg.1.sh --keyserver hkp://keys.openpgp.org --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
gpg: key 3CB9FD148F374FEF: new key but contains no user ID - skipped
gpg: Número total processado: 1
gpg: sem IDs de utilizadores: 1
root@debian:/home/rui# echo deb linuxcnc.org/ buster base 2.8-rtpreempt | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linux.list
deb linuxcnc.org/ buster base 2.8-rtpreempt
root@debian:/home/rui# sudo apt-get update
Obter:1 linuxcnc.org buster InRelease [28,5 kB]
Err:1 linuxcnc.org buster InRelease
As seguintes assinaturas não puderam ser verificadas porque a chave pública não está disponível: NO_PUBKEY 3CB9FD148F374FEF
A ler as listas de pacotes... Pronto
W: Erro GPG: linuxcnc.org buster InRelease: As seguintes assinaturas não puderam ser verificadas porque a chave pública não está disponível: NO_PUBKEY 3CB9FD148F374FEF
E: The repository 'linuxcnc.org buster InRelease' is not signed.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
root@debian:/home/rui#

Any idea?

Regards
Rui Meirinho

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01 Aug 2021 17:00 #216630 by andypugh
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Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.GNogrTKoNq/gpg.1.sh --keyserver hkp://keys.openpgp.org --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
gpg: key 3CB9FD148F374FEF: new key but contains no user ID - skipped


Hmm, try
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef

The problem is discussed here: superuser.com/questions/1485213/gpg-cant...s-no-user-id-skipped

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02 Aug 2021 14:35 #216703 by gaston48
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Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.GNogrTKoNq/gpg.1.sh --keyserver hkp://keys.openpgp.org --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
gpg: key 3CB9FD148F374FEF: new key but contains no user ID - skipped

Hmm, try

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef

The problem is discussed here: https://superuser.com/questions/1485213/gpg-cant-import-key-new-key-but-contains-no-user-id-skipped
 

Ah thank you Andy, the start of the installation is going well for me now, but it then blocks the installation of RTAI ?

linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-start...#cha:Installing-RTAI

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02 Aug 2021 14:54 #216705 by andypugh
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What blocks what? And what is the error message?

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