Installing LinuxCNC on other Linux distros does not work anymore
13 Jun 2022 00:12 #245035
by tommylight
WARNING:
Everything below pertains to using Master builbot packages in an attempt to have some options besides Debian, although since LinuxCNC is now in the Debian repositories, this is just an exercise in futility matched only by it's monumental failure, as can be seen below.
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Last few days have been a pain trying to install LinuxCNC on these distros:
-Linux Mint 20.3 (again) = does not work
-Depin Linux = does not work / chinese so i did not bother much
-Ubuntu 22.04 = does not work / i hate it, tends to send a lot of info all over the world
-Pop! OS 22.04 = got it installed, Axis does not work, QTDragon does not work, QtPlasmaC does not work, but GmoccaPy does work. Also, it will not use RT kernels without some heavy lifting, so still not usable.
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This is mostly due to new builds of LinuxCNC not reporting any missing dependencies in GDebi, having strange Python requirements (complaining something in LinuxCNC requires version under 3.10 while something else requires over 3.8!!!) etc etc, not going to deep as there is no reason or justification for it.
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And Rod, no i do not want to compile it!
P.S.
I do not do this for me, it is for new users (when it works) to give them something more polished than XFCE.
So that leaves us with the only option of using Debian and doing some quick tutorials on how to safely install other desktop environments and switch to using them.
Everything below pertains to using Master builbot packages in an attempt to have some options besides Debian, although since LinuxCNC is now in the Debian repositories, this is just an exercise in futility matched only by it's monumental failure, as can be seen below.
-
Last few days have been a pain trying to install LinuxCNC on these distros:
-Linux Mint 20.3 (again) = does not work
-Depin Linux = does not work / chinese so i did not bother much
-Ubuntu 22.04 = does not work / i hate it, tends to send a lot of info all over the world
-Pop! OS 22.04 = got it installed, Axis does not work, QTDragon does not work, QtPlasmaC does not work, but GmoccaPy does work. Also, it will not use RT kernels without some heavy lifting, so still not usable.
--
This is mostly due to new builds of LinuxCNC not reporting any missing dependencies in GDebi, having strange Python requirements (complaining something in LinuxCNC requires version under 3.10 while something else requires over 3.8!!!) etc etc, not going to deep as there is no reason or justification for it.
--
And Rod, no i do not want to compile it!
P.S.
I do not do this for me, it is for new users (when it works) to give them something more polished than XFCE.
So that leaves us with the only option of using Debian and doing some quick tutorials on how to safely install other desktop environments and switch to using them.
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13 Jun 2022 18:15 #245081
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Installing LinuxCNC on other Linux distros does not work anymore
Thank you Snowwy, but i need this for other users, not me.
Personally, i can run pretty much anything on anything, been using Linux for over 25 years now.
Shhhh, do not tell anyone, but i did make Mint 20 work, it just takes half a day chasing stuff.
I would like to say that i will not try this anymore since it is going mainstream, but come Mint 21, i am sure i will try it again!
Personally, i can run pretty much anything on anything, been using Linux for over 25 years now.
Shhhh, do not tell anyone, but i did make Mint 20 work, it just takes half a day chasing stuff.
I would like to say that i will not try this anymore since it is going mainstream, but come Mint 21, i am sure i will try it again!
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13 Jun 2022 18:24 #245083
by snowgoer540
Hmm, does it have to be Debian 11 based? Mx Linux 19.4 is pretty user friendly and would still allow the buildbot packages…
Replied by snowgoer540 on topic Installing LinuxCNC on other Linux distros does not work anymore
Thank you Snowwy, but i need this for other users, not me.
Personally, i can run pretty much anything on anything, been using Linux for over 25 years now.
Shhhh, do not tell anyone, but i did make Mint 20 work, it just takes half a day chasing stuff.
I would like to say that i will not try this anymore since it is going mainstream, but come Mint 21, i am sure i will try it again!
Hmm, does it have to be Debian 11 based? Mx Linux 19.4 is pretty user friendly and would still allow the buildbot packages…
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13 Jun 2022 18:59 #245084
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Installing LinuxCNC on other Linux distros does not work anymore
Give POP! OS a try, leme know what you think, but from a beginners perspective.
Besides user name and password, it requires about 3 clicks to install and run, it has a VERY appealing look and feel, everything seems smooooooooth, etc etc, so having that with LinuxCNC will have people flocking over in a heartbeat.
That is my point, new users.
Not getting them traumatized at the very start with git and compile and stuff that can and will go sideways easily, to the point of poor souls having nightmares and waking up in a pool of their own sweat !
Besides user name and password, it requires about 3 clicks to install and run, it has a VERY appealing look and feel, everything seems smooooooooth, etc etc, so having that with LinuxCNC will have people flocking over in a heartbeat.
That is my point, new users.
Not getting them traumatized at the very start with git and compile and stuff that can and will go sideways easily, to the point of poor souls having nightmares and waking up in a pool of their own sweat !
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13 Jun 2022 20:36 #245087
by snowgoer540
Perhaps I will check it out when I get some time!
Haha yea that’s what I was trying to avoid with the guide I made. A lot of button clicks, but it’ll give you a great experience if you can bake a cake
Replied by snowgoer540 on topic Installing LinuxCNC on other Linux distros does not work anymore
Give POP! OS a try, leme know what you think, but from a beginners perspective.
Besides user name and password, it requires about 3 clicks to install and run, it has a VERY appealing look and feel, everything seems smooooooooth, etc etc, so having that with LinuxCNC will have people flocking over in a heartbeat.
Perhaps I will check it out when I get some time!
That is my point, new users.
Not getting them traumatized at the very start with git and compile and stuff that can and will go sideways easily, to the point of poor souls having nightmares and waking up in a pool of their own sweat !
Haha yea that’s what I was trying to avoid with the guide I made. A lot of button clicks, but it’ll give you a great experience if you can bake a cake
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