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28 Jan 2025 03:51 #319974
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What you're suggesting has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked for.As you'll only be able to run in simulation mode and you just want to get familar with Linuxcnc an arm install will be fine.
After doing a quick read I'd research the following:
Is Debian Bookworm able to be run. The kernel versions and X server versions seem to be limited.
Is the Kernel version that is on the Linuxcnc iso compatitable ?
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28 Jan 2025 04:03 - 28 Jan 2025 04:12 #319975
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I beg to disagree.
Running Linuxcnc in a VM will be no different if it's arm based or x86 based.
In actual fact running Linuxcnc on real a x86 (amd64) platform or a real ARM (ie RPi4 or 5) platform is the same. Apart from hardware that is specific to each platform.
Linuxcnc can not be used for realtime inside a VM. Simualtion is fine.
Now, anything to do with Parallels isn't a Linuxcnc issue. Maybe if you tried a Mac forum and asked politely, someone may want to perform this task for you. Like "Can someone with an Intel Mac create a x86 Linuxcnc VM for me to use on my Arm based Mac." That would have made life easier if you have had just asked that to begin with.
Running Linuxcnc in a VM will be no different if it's arm based or x86 based.
In actual fact running Linuxcnc on real a x86 (amd64) platform or a real ARM (ie RPi4 or 5) platform is the same. Apart from hardware that is specific to each platform.
Linuxcnc can not be used for realtime inside a VM. Simualtion is fine.
Now, anything to do with Parallels isn't a Linuxcnc issue. Maybe if you tried a Mac forum and asked politely, someone may want to perform this task for you. Like "Can someone with an Intel Mac create a x86 Linuxcnc VM for me to use on my Arm based Mac." That would have made life easier if you have had just asked that to begin with.
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28 Jan 2025 04:56 #319977
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I found the perfect reply: forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc...s-linuxcnc-vm#319841I beg to disagree.
Running Linuxcnc in a VM will be no different if it's arm based or x86 based.
In actual fact running Linuxcnc on real a x86 (amd64) platform or a real ARM (ie RPi4 or 5) platform is the same. Apart from hardware that is specific to each platform.
Linuxcnc can not be used for realtime inside a VM. Simualtion is fine.
Now, anything to do with Parallels isn't a Linuxcnc issue. Maybe if you tried a Mac forum and asked politely, someone may want to perform this task for you. Like "Can someone with an Intel Mac create a x86 Linuxcnc VM for me to use on my Arm based Mac." That would have made life easier if you have had just asked that to begin with.
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28 Jan 2025 05:21 #319978
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Yeah I not too sure what that means other than this whole thread is a "you issue" and you need to learn to ask better questions, although I can understand the frustration if the mess that is the English language is not your native tongue.
Now from my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, you would like to run Linuxcnc in a Parallels VM. Now if this is the case it will not be a real-time capable setup.
Now if it possible to install a Debian arm installation in your VM that would be an option.
Now if you have to have an x86 VM you may need to try other options to get this done for you.
Now from my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, you would like to run Linuxcnc in a Parallels VM. Now if this is the case it will not be a real-time capable setup.
Now if it possible to install a Debian arm installation in your VM that would be an option.
Now if you have to have an x86 VM you may need to try other options to get this done for you.
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28 Jan 2025 07:08 #319979
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You're wrong.Now from my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, you would like to run Linuxcnc in a Parallels VM.
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28 Jan 2025 07:46 #319980
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What is your are trying to do ?
Please put in simply in point form and explain where/why/how I'm wrong ?
Please put in simply in point form and explain where/why/how I'm wrong ?
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28 Jan 2025 08:05 #319981
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Ok "Sim mode" or simulation mode is that you are not running in a usable real-time environment.
There having Linuxcnc, the OS image/installation run in a VM means that it will be "Sim mode". If you run a latency test it will be horrible.
Now if the arm install was uninspiring, I doubt very much an arm processor on the Mac emulating x86 instructions will be any better.
Now "you're wrong" as a reply helps no one, and we end up playing a back and forth game trying extract information from one another.
No if you happen to have the same experience on different forums, I would do what I do when repairing various devices and swapping parts out. It may be helpful to look at the common dominator.
As this forum doesn't have DM or direct messaging.......
There having Linuxcnc, the OS image/installation run in a VM means that it will be "Sim mode". If you run a latency test it will be horrible.
Now if the arm install was uninspiring, I doubt very much an arm processor on the Mac emulating x86 instructions will be any better.
Now "you're wrong" as a reply helps no one, and we end up playing a back and forth game trying extract information from one another.
No if you happen to have the same experience on different forums, I would do what I do when repairing various devices and swapping parts out. It may be helpful to look at the common dominator.
As this forum doesn't have DM or direct messaging.......
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28 Jan 2025 15:54 #319996
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Obtain a Parallels VM of LinuxCNC created on an Intel Mac.What is your are trying to do ?
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28 Jan 2025 17:42 #320000
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That would have been how to ask for what you wanted. Concise and to the point.
Maybe someone on a Mac forum or similar could provide one, tho I would ask for a Debian bookworm image, as asking for a Linuxcnc image might lead to answers you don't want.
Is it still possible to import VirtualBox virtual machines into Parallels ? And is it possible to import an x86 VirtualBox VM into Parallels running on an Arm based Mac.
Or step over to the dark side and obtain a 2nd hand T series Lenovo laptop. T530 work quite well. Easier to transport from your workshop, office, ivory tower or wherever.
Maybe someone on a Mac forum or similar could provide one, tho I would ask for a Debian bookworm image, as asking for a Linuxcnc image might lead to answers you don't want.
Is it still possible to import VirtualBox virtual machines into Parallels ? And is it possible to import an x86 VirtualBox VM into Parallels running on an Arm based Mac.
Or step over to the dark side and obtain a 2nd hand T series Lenovo laptop. T530 work quite well. Easier to transport from your workshop, office, ivory tower or wherever.
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28 Jan 2025 18:49 #320009
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I just want to add that my experience so far, after buying a Mesa board and attempting to set up a LinuxCNC control on a router has been absurd. The Mesa board seems okay, and well made, but the culture around LinuxCNC is confusing. Before engineering school, I was a CNC programmer and I admired the Heidenhain TNC640 controls our dozens of Hermle 5-axis machines ran on. I started to understand what all the fuss was about Linux. But LinuxCNC is whole other animal. It feels more like a Masonic Temple than software. I just want to optimize running a machine that I bought, and has very common components, but because of how awful the documentation is, the forum is mandatory. But this forum is not great. Sorry!
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I doubt that would have helped. You know as well as I do that the conversation would have gone pretty much exactly as this one has: completely irrelevant advice that has nothing to do with the question.cornholio post=320000 userid=35653
Concise and to the point.
I would have had the same conversation anywhere else.Maybe someone on a Mac forum or similar could provide one
No. Ask me how I know!Is it still possible to import VirtualBox virtual machines into Parallels ? And is it possible to import an x86 VirtualBox VM into Parallels running on an Arm based Mac.
I already mentioned two PCs that I already own.Or step over to the dark side and obtain a 2nd hand T series Lenovo laptop. T530 work quite well. Easier to transport from your workshop, office, ivory tower or wherever.
I just want to add that my experience so far, after buying a Mesa board and attempting to set up a LinuxCNC control on a router has been absurd. The Mesa board seems okay, and well made, but the culture around LinuxCNC is confusing. Before engineering school, I was a CNC programmer and I admired the Heidenhain TNC640 controls our dozens of Hermle 5-axis machines ran on. I started to understand what all the fuss was about Linux. But LinuxCNC is whole other animal. It feels more like a Masonic Temple than software. I just want to optimize running a machine that I bought, and has very common components, but because of how awful the documentation is, the forum is mandatory. But this forum is not great. Sorry!
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