Multiple Input to E-Stop Configuration

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26 Oct 2015 20:22 - 26 Oct 2015 20:28 #64289 by Askjerry
I have three axis on my mill using the Geckodrive G320 DC Motor type drivers. When in normal operation, the ERR pin is at 5v (logic high) and if/when the drive fails, the pin goes to 0v (logic low). I have two Stainsmart boards connected to my dual parallel ports, the relay (Pin 14) of the second board is configured to apply a 5v reset signal to the drives to reset them at start up, and if an error occurs. (There are diodes to isolate each signal, etc.)

On my pyVCP panel, I have three indicators to let me know which, if any of the drives may have failed. I also have the mill set up to accept an external E-STOP signal to halt everything. All this works flawlessly so far. The three signals in the pyVCP are named GECKO-X, GECKO-Y, and GECKO-Z... a LOW signal makes the FAIL image pop up.

Parallel Port 0, Pin P13 = E-STOP (Active/Triggered Low)
Parallel Port 1, Pin P10 = X-Axis Err
Parallel Port 1, Pin P11 = Y-Axis Err
Parallel Port 1, Pin P12 = Z-Axis Err

Here is the issue... if any ONE or MORE of the error pins goes low... I need to trigger the E-STOP pin. (Logic Low)

There are two ways to accomplish this...
1) Connect a physical 4-Input NAND gate chip to the three pins and tie the remaining pin to high. (Or to another E-Stop switch.)
2) Write a HAL component to evaluate the three inputs and react accordingly.

I was looking at the software method... but both the AND function and the OR function only take 2 inputs as I understand them.
I know I could AND signal 1 and signal 2, then AND the result with signal 3... but that just seems too clunky to me.


Is there a software solution or should I just build the circuit and drop it into my interface matrix?
Thoughts?
Suggestions?

Thanks!
Last edit: 26 Oct 2015 20:28 by Askjerry.

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26 Oct 2015 21:40 #64299 by Todd Zuercher
There is already a pin in motion for connecting a servo amp fault. (axis.N.amp-fault-in)
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

But this doesn't put the machine into e-stop, just power off. (F2) but this isn't necessarily all bad.

other software options would be to use a series of or2s, use lut5, or use classic ladder.

using the or2 is a bit clunky but it can work.

input0=>or2.0.in0
input1=>or2.0.in1

input2=>or2.1.in0
or2.0.out=>or2.1.in1

input3=>or2.2.in0
or2.1.out=>or2.2.in1

or2.2.out=>what ever signal

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26 Oct 2015 22:00 - 26 Oct 2015 22:51 #64301 by andypugh

I was looking at the software method... but both the AND function and the OR function only take 2 inputs as I understand them.


www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/logic.9.html

Up to 16 inputs. And LUT5 will work too.
For 32 inputs you could use "bitwise" but that is rather more trouble.

[Edit] On further reflection, LUT5 is probably the most convenient as that lets you chose whether you want to e-stop on positive or negative logic for each input.
Last edit: 26 Oct 2015 22:51 by andypugh.

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26 Oct 2015 22:57 - 26 Oct 2015 23:03 #64305 by Askjerry
Yes, the logic will work... I just need to tinker with it now and understand the syntax... but yes... 3 inputs, one output... then tie that to E-Stop... perfect.

I'll post code once I figure it out.

So far... from what I read...

loadrt logic count=1
addf logic.0 base-thread
net pyvcp.GECKO-X => logic.0.in-00
net pyvcp.GECKO-Y => logic.0.in-01
net pyvcp.GECKO-Z => logic.0.in-02
net GECKO-ERR <= logic.0.and


If any input or combination of inputs drop to zero then GECKO-ERR should equal ZERO.

I still have issues with figuring out net connections... so I'll have to play around with this... but I have the concept...

then once I get the logic command to work... I know that in my HAL file I have the following set up by stepconfig......

net estop-ext => parport.0.pin.13.in
net estop-out <= iocontrol.0.user-enable-out
net estop-ext => iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in


So it looks like I have to net GECKO-ERR to estop-ext to complete the logic... I'll start working on that...

Getting the nets right is always my stumbling block...

Thanks!
Jerry
Last edit: 26 Oct 2015 23:03 by Askjerry.

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26 Oct 2015 23:33 #64309 by andypugh

loadrt logic count=1

loadrt logic count=1 personality=0x203
Will give you a 3-input OR gate

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27 Oct 2015 00:06 #64312 by Askjerry
Ah.... ok...

I still think it must be an AND function... all three must be in LOGIC-1 state to have a NOT ESTOP

So...

loadrt logic count=1 personality=0x103
addf logic.0 base-thread


And I'm also thinking I need to point directly to the parallel port inputs, not the pvVCP indicators...

net parport.1.pin.10.in => logic.0.in-00
net parport.1.pin.11.in => logic.0.in-01
net parport.1.pin.12.in => logic.0.in-02
net GECKO-ERR <= logic.0.and


Right?

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27 Oct 2015 00:30 #64314 by andypugh

addf logic.0 base-thread[/color]


Servo thread will be fine.

And I'm also thinking I need to point directly to the parallel port inputs, not the pvVCP indicators...


You actually probably need to link to the signals, if the pins are already connected.

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27 Oct 2015 00:58 #64320 by Askjerry
Ah... servo-thread is then the slower of the two... not cycled as often... and less likely to slow down the machine...

I got them mixed up... which means... I need to revisit some of my other configurations as well. (blush)

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27 Oct 2015 14:00 - 27 Oct 2015 14:09 #64337 by Askjerry
Major accomplishment. (For me anyway...) :laugh:

I have 4 inputs from the "real world"... if any one or more fails (goes low) then the machine MUST stop... ESTOP active.
  • ERR Signal from X-Axis Gecko Drive
  • ERR Signal from Y-Axis Gecko Drive
  • ERR Signal from Z-Axis Gecko Drive
  • A Big RED ESTOP SWITCH mounted on the mill
Additionally... there is a button on the pyVCP panel called GECKO-RESET, if pressed, the system should switch on a relay attached to the second parallel port, pin 14, parport.1.pin-14-out... then hold this relay active for at least 5 seconds to reset all the Geckodrives.

It took some fiddling... but I got it... and it works well. I needed to use the "NOT" and the "LOGIC" functions together to make it happen.
# -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
# Geckodrive Error Reporting and Reset System
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
loadrt 	not 			count=1		# Load 1 instance of the "NOT" routine.
addf 	not.0 			servo-thread	# Apply to servo-thread
loadrt 	timedelay 		count=1		# Load 1 instance of the "TIMEDELAY" routine.
addf	timedelay.0		servo-thread	# Apply to servo-thread
setp	timedelay.0.on-delay 	0.05		# Set delay to determine switch push to 0.05 sec.
setp	timedelay.0.off-delay 	5.0		# Set the delay time to 5.0 sec.
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# read the "gecko-clear" button and apply it to the time delay input, then invert and
# send the signal to the parallel port #2, pin 14... hold it for the full time delay.		
net gecko-clear-in		<= timedelay.0.in		<= pyvcp.GECKO-RESET 
net gecko-post-timer		<= timedelay.0.out		
net gecko-post-timer		=> not.0.in			
net gecko-post-invert		<= not.0.out			=> parport.1.pin-14-out
# -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
net panel-GECKO-X		<= parport.1.pin-10-in		=> pyvcp.GECKO-X
net panel-GECKO-Y		<= parport.1.pin-11-in		=> pyvcp.GECKO-Y
net panel-GECKO-Z		<= parport.1.pin-12-in		=> pyvcp.GECKO-Z
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Geckodrive Error to ESTOP system 
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
net estop-switch	<= parport.0.pin-13-in
net estop-ext 		=> iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in
net estop-out 		<= iocontrol.0.user-enable-out
# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Use the "LOGIC" function to evaluate four (4) inputs... if any fail, act accordingly.	
loadrt logic count=1 personality=0x104 		# 1xx is AND, 2xx is OR, and 3xx is XOR logic sets.
addf logic.0 servo-thread
net panel-GECKO-X 	=> logic.0.in-00	# Input 1 of 4 from X-Axis
net panel-GECKO-Y 	=> logic.0.in-01	# Input 2 of 4 from Y-Axis
net panel-GECKO-Z 	=> logic.0.in-02	# Input 3 of 4 from Z-Axis
net estop-switch	=> logic.0.in-03	# Input 4 of 4 from Big Red Button on Mill
net estop-ext 		<= logic.0.and 		# Apply the final output to the ESTOP system	
# -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
# End of Configuration

I want to personally thank Andy Pugh for all his help... I could not have figured it out on my own... THANKS! B)

I hope this helps someone else with their system too!
Jerry
Last edit: 27 Oct 2015 14:09 by Askjerry.

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27 Oct 2015 23:13 #64357 by andypugh
If you wanted to make it slightly simpler you could do away with the "not" function and simply invert the sense parallel port pin output.

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