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11 months 1 week ago #339103 by tommylight

Apple's simple command+k shortcut to connect to a samba share is really nice, I wonder why Linux distros can't seem to achieve the same thing; it is absolutely possible, I guess they just never thought of it.
You are probably to young to recall
\\192.168.1.123\$C
Back when Knoppix was rising, you do that on a Linux PC, and it will show you the full C drive on the windows PC with that IP address, with full permission, without asking for password, be it on win98SE, winME, w2k or XP.
Oh yeah, that was with NO sharing enabled on the win PC.
Fun days.... and reboot and shutdown remotely any win pc... :)

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11 months 1 week ago #339106 by unknown
The thing is MacOS and windows only have one file manager to deal with. There's numerous file managers within Linux that are available and each has there own implementation.
And samba shares can be mounted in a variety of ways as well. an entry in fstab (and this can either be a auto or non-auto mount), via the commend line, via the address bar in a file manager......and a hundred other I've probably forgotten over the years.
And going back to XFCE or anything DE for that matter, you've probably noticed that each distro will have a different set of panels, menu implementations or what not. So XFCE on one distro will look different on onther, same for MATE Mint & Debian have a wholly different look for the menus & panels. What this will come down to is the team or person that builds the distro.
The reason the Linuxcnc desktop looks so basic is due to no customisations being made. It's just the way the package manager installs it. And when the builder of the distro does their mods they have to make sure that the mods stay between package upgrades. So there is a lot of work. This was really brought home when I was building the new RPi images. Most of the XFCE programs have their defaults set via xml files under the /etc/xdg directory, so the basic default look and feel come from those files. Then again DE are quite configurable, depends how much time the end user want to change it and how much time.

Now Muzzer:
With regards to file sharing, since I'm working within a Linux environment, I just use sftp to mount directories on other machines, in the context of Linux in the machine you want to connect has an ssh serving running there's no setup needed, as long as gvfs-backends & gvfs-fuse are installed. These locations can be bookmarked within the Linux file manager. And of course the workhorse server has NFS shares setup.
Now Thunar does have a plugin that lets you create samba shares on your Linux machine without needing root access, but of course there will have to be an instance of a samba server running, unfortunately it's a little hit and miss according to reports on the internet.
Funnily enough the only distro I've found to have samba working out of the box was when I use to use Puppy Linux, but that was prior to Windows 8,10,11.
Whilst I haven't tried it, a suitable ssh server for windows may give the same functionality.

There's also the option of using a domestic router to work as an intermediary samba server between windows and Linux.......Tho I think some may use a very early SMB protocol.

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11 months 1 week ago - 11 months 1 week ago #339107 by tommylight
Can all of you using any other Linux than Mint try to install and use warpinator ?
It comes standard with last two major versions of Mint, no setup, it just works for network sharing, and pretty sure i read somewhere it also works on windoze..
Sorry, i forgot about this as i always unistall it from my ISO's.
Edit:
As pointed by "unknown" below
DO NOT USE THE WEBSITE warpinator dot com
Use GitHUB
For Linux it is
Code:
sudo apt install warpinator
Last edit: 11 months 1 week ago by tommylight. Reason: more info

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11 months 1 week ago #339108 by unknown
Might be best to read the github page regarding some sites using warpinator.com domain.

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11 months 1 week ago #339115 by tommylight

Might be best to read the github page regarding some sites using warpinator.com domain.
#@$%!^%@&*
Dang it, i was not aware of that mess, so yeah
DO NOT USE THE WEBSITE warpinator dot com
Use GitHUB
For Linux it is
Code:
sudo apt install warpinator
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11 months 1 week ago #339116 by unknown
Why did windows dominate the market?

The PC clone, which allowed many vendors to get in, sell at competitive prices and with PCs coming pre installed with Windows it was a no brainer. Old self proclaimed Dr\Farmer Gates was pretty aggressive.
TBH it took Linux a while to have a polished Desktop. A lot of misinfo about having to be a programmer to use Linux, mostly coming from a half generation that weren't aware MSDOS was command line only for many years. I think it's only us guys old enough to grow White Whiskers remembers early Linux and would have run it on a 486.
Until the wide spread adoption of the internet any security issues weren't exposed as they would be post internet, yes there were viruses around, but their source was either from physical media or BBS's.
As for Banks, most of the behind the scenes stuff would of been carried by ancient IBM systems, or Unix. My old ma remembers working in banks where one machine would take up a whole room (1970 or there about), living Down Under the aircon was great in summer.
They are quite a few local government locales in Europe & South America that have broke away from Windows.
The whole Third World Infrastructure is probably run by the West's Ewaste running pirated copies of XP, I don't think anyone is desperate enough to run Win2k unless it's a machine that has no connection to the outside world inside a Cold War bunker. Word has it that Win2k could catch the common cold from a user.

Betamax was superior to VHS, but VHS won out. The World's an imperfect place, I'm sure the Open BSD & Net BSD guys laugh at us Linux users. I wont talk to much about the Emacs \ Vi (Vim) flame wars, alot of good people perished.
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