Updating from LINUXCNC - 2.8.4-23, Mint 20.3 - gmoccapy lathe structure

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24 Nov 2025 00:41 - 24 Nov 2025 02:29 #339107 by tommylight
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Can all of you using any other Linux than Mint try to install and use warpinator ?
It comes standard with last two major versions of Mint, no setup, it just works for network sharing, and pretty sure i read somewhere it also works on windoze..
Sorry, i forgot about this as i always unistall it from my ISO's.
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As pointed by "unknown" below
DO NOT USE THE WEBSITE warpinator dot com
Use GitHUB
For Linux it is
sudo apt install warpinator
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24 Nov 2025 00:49 #339108 by unknown
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Might be best to read the github page regarding some sites using warpinator.com domain.

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24 Nov 2025 01:20 #339110 by langdons
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Apple's simple command+k shortcut to connect to a samba share is really nice, I wonder why Linux distros can't seem to achieve the same thing; it is absolutely possible, I guess they just never thought of it.
You are probably to young to recall
\\192.168.1.123\$C
Back when Knoppix was rising, you do that on a Linux PC, and it will show you the full C drive on the windows PC with that IP address, with full permission, without asking for password, be it on win98SE, winME, w2k or XP.
Oh yeah, that was with NO sharing enabled on the win PC.
Fun days.... and reboot and shutdown remotely any win pc... :)

That's funny.

Old Windows really sucked.

Though when you consider that most computers, including those for major companies (i.e. banks) were all using Windows, it's pretty concerning, especially when you consider that everyone continued to use Windows even after they found out!

Why Windows has still remained popular despite its numerous egregious past and present gaping security holes, I'll never understand.

Why didn't another company capitalize upon Microsoft's stupidity and make a similar, non-broken OS and steal the whole user base?

Why has Microsoft never suffered any consequence for such blatant disregard for even an essence of security?

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24 Nov 2025 01:29 - 24 Nov 2025 01:35 #339111 by langdons
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I gave up trying to format this, the editor sucks.

Never mind.
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24 Nov 2025 02:28 #339115 by tommylight
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Might be best to read the github page regarding some sites using warpinator.com domain.

#@$%!^%@&*
Dang it, i was not aware of that mess, so yeah
DO NOT USE THE WEBSITE warpinator dot com
Use GitHUB
For Linux it is
sudo apt install warpinator
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24 Nov 2025 04:27 #339116 by unknown
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Why did windows dominate the market?

The PC clone, which allowed many vendors to get in, sell at competitive prices and with PCs coming pre installed with Windows it was a no brainer. Old self proclaimed Dr\Farmer Gates was pretty aggressive.
TBH it took Linux a while to have a polished Desktop. A lot of misinfo about having to be a programmer to use Linux, mostly coming from a half generation that weren't aware MSDOS was command line only for many years. I think it's only us guys old enough to grow White Whiskers remembers early Linux and would have run it on a 486.
Until the wide spread adoption of the internet any security issues weren't exposed as they would be post internet, yes there were viruses around, but their source was either from physical media or BBS's.
As for Banks, most of the behind the scenes stuff would of been carried by ancient IBM systems, or Unix. My old ma remembers working in banks where one machine would take up a whole room (1970 or there about), living Down Under the aircon was great in summer.
They are quite a few local government locales in Europe & South America that have broke away from Windows.
The whole Third World Infrastructure is probably run by the West's Ewaste running pirated copies of XP, I don't think anyone is desperate enough to run Win2k unless it's a machine that has no connection to the outside world inside a Cold War bunker. Word has it that Win2k could catch the common cold from a user.

Betamax was superior to VHS, but VHS won out. The World's an imperfect place, I'm sure the Open BSD & Net BSD guys laugh at us Linux users. I wont talk to much about the Emacs \ Vi (Vim) flame wars, alot of good people perished.
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28 Nov 2025 17:54 - 29 Nov 2025 11:30 #339379 by Muzzer
I'm back home again, having been away at work during the week. I've created an initial config using pncconfig, then edited up the contents the best I can, based on my previous working instance in 2.8.4 Of course, those old files no longer work with the current version of gmoccapy and LinuxCNC, presumably due to changes that have occurred along the way, so I have no working system.

I'm in a bit of a Catch-22 situation, as I can't start from a working copy and simply(?) make a few changes. The SIM versions have a range of extra files to fool LinuxCNC to work without a real machine and I don't know which those are. My "starter file" created in pncconfig never got as far as being fully operational, not least because the bitfile in my 5i25 for isn't listed in the pncconfig options.

When I try to run LinuxCNC with my new embryonic config, it seems to bomb out when it tries to start gmoccapy. The debug info is very curt and doesn't seem to give me much of a clue what to look for.

I'm pretty certain I'm missing some of the files required for operation but I've no idea what those are. Without a functioning example, I can't work from a "known good" example. Ideally I'd have an example of a complete file / folder set that I can compare with - is there something I can refer to?

The various gmoccapy sims work fine but as I said, they seem to come with a variety of additional files that I won't need with a real machine. Can somebody help to identify which files I need and which I don't? Many thanks!

 

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29 Nov 2025 11:36 #339418 by Muzzer
Re: the above, could somebody show me what the folder structure and contents should look like in a functioning gmoccapy lathe installation please?

I want to identify the files that are missing from my system that are preventing it from working.

Many thanks.

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29 Nov 2025 12:25 #339419 by Aciera
It's not that you are missing files but that your hal files content doesn't harmonize:
gmoccapy_postgui.hal:9: Signal 'tool-change-confirmed' can not add OUT pin 'gmoccapy.toolchange-changed', it already has OUT pin 'hal_manualtoolchange.changed'

If you are unsure you can just comment out the line in your gmoccapy_postgui.hal and any others that may throw errors so you can start your config and see what is missing.

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29 Nov 2025 18:46 #339442 by Muzzer
Aha. Many thanks - commenting out that duplicated line did the trick, so I now have the machine moving in closed loop, homing correctly and e-stopping safely. That's a great step forward and it feels as if I'm getting close to getting this sorted out.

I now have to get the xhc-whb04b-6 MPG connected up (currently commented out) and the spindle vfd doesn't respond, so I'll need to check that out too.

Andy Pugh's macros don't show up in my GUI. I have the tab showing up but clicking on it does nothing - none of the graphics appear. There are several gmoccapy lathe sims that work but something's not right in my setup. Again, I'm not clear what files need to be where and what configs need to be set up. Is there any documentation for the lathe macros that I can refer to?

Many thanks

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