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6 years 1 month ago #181294 by Reinhard
tune stepper function was created by Reinhard
Hi,

I'm playing with pncconf with a test-setup (and new steppers). First try to tune a stepper looked ok, but when I increased travel distance, axis crashed against limit, where the stepper blocked and the driver turned into error state.

As I had no idea, about what went wrong, I thought, may be better to test with rotational axis, which can not block ...

But pncconf fails on trying to tune A-axis.

So I faked pncconf and connected the A-Axis at the X-Stepper connector. Then I realized, that the test function runs 1 distance ahead, but 2 distances back - As the carriage was near one limit at first test, I now know, why it runned into limits.
Could that be turned off, so that the step runs one distance ahead, and the same distance back?

What about driver parameters?
I can't change timing parameters or max vel. in test panel. Does that limitations come from GUI or from hal testfunction?
Driver bandwith is 200kHz and I'd like to test that speed.

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6 years 1 month ago #181311 by cmorley
Replied by cmorley on topic tune stepper function
It's been a long while since using/looking at this.
A quick look at axistest.comp seems to show it should request +- 1 amplitude around start position.(if you select the +- option)
This get connected to simpletp and PID which could screw that up I suppose..
I'll have to test with hardware.

I do see setp pid.0.maxerror .0005 - in the test - which is wrong for metric machines...


As for adjusting stepper settings and max velocity.
max velocity is what you are testing. - maybe I don't understand what you are asking.
stepper driver timing setting should be able to be set in the test. - are you saying the spinboxes don't work?

Chris

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6 years 1 month ago #181356 by Reinhard
Replied by Reinhard on topic tune stepper function

if you select the +- option

Hm, if the behaviour is intended, than I recommend a big fat warning in the dialog.
I guess, nobody likes the stepper crash against limits - and the meaning of ± is not obvious.
It could as well be like what I thought, that the test runs one dimension in one direction and the same dimension back to the beginning.
I would prefer this as default.
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stepper driver timing setting should be able to be set in the test. - are you saying the spinboxes don't work?

Well, I didn't try smaller values, but bigger values don't work.

Max velocity is tied to 6000 mm/min.
I use stepper + drivers with a setting of 4000 steps per revolution. That leads to 12000 mm/min on a bandwith of 200kHz.
I tried to change max velocity to 10000 mm/min, but 6000 is fixed limit of the spinbox.

I can change settings in pncconf, but not in the tune-dialog.

Same is true for driver timings.
step-timings are set to 5000ns, same as directory changes. Specs of my driver recommend a delay of 10000ns between last/first step pulse and directory change.
So I tried to change timings of directory signal, but it keeps tied to 5000ns.

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6 years 1 month ago #181360 by cmorley
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+- is default and it moves 1 amplitude in the negative direction, moves back to start, and then moves one amplitude in the positive direction moves back to start.

I'm confused - is this what it did and you don't like it or did it do something else which means it's broken?

step setings/ velocity:
ok i understand now.
I use imperial so 6000 ipm is high enough :)
I have increased the settings in pncconf pages for metric people but i guess I didn't for the tests. I'll do that shortly.

Thanks
Chris

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6 years 1 month ago #181446 by Reinhard
Replied by Reinhard on topic tune stepper function

+- is default and it moves 1 amplitude in the negative direction, moves back to start, and then moves one amplitude in the positive direction moves back to start.

Ok, I used the word "dimension" instead of "amplitude", but yes, that's what it does.

For me this behaviour is not obvious from "+-" without description.
Would be nice to add a warning, that carriage should be located in the middle of the axis for that test to work.

May be its possible to add a static text linked to the option, that describes the behavior of the selected test.
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I have increased the settings in pncconf pages for metric people but i guess I didn't for the tests. I'll do that shortly.

Thanks a lot!

Could you please check the test for an A-axis?
If pncconf supports xyza machines, it would be nice to be able to test an A-axis too.

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6 years 1 month ago #181483 by cmorley
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ok done and pushed!
The following user(s) said Thank You: tommylight

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