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Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
6 years 7 months ago #161766
by phillc54
The Arc OK Low probably needs to be at around half your cutting voltage.
Replied by phillc54 on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Set the Arc OK High on the Config Panel as high as it will go, that will get you going and you could lower it later but it is probably not necessary.My problem I think the voltage is a bit to high ...at the moment still works only with pulse. as soon as I try run a programm (automatic) it says valid arc lost...
The Arc OK Low probably needs to be at around half your cutting voltage.
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6 years 7 months ago #161773
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Will do, Thx.
Studying again plasmac I guessed Fail Timeout mods needed.
Studying again plasmac I guessed Fail Timeout mods needed.
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6 years 7 months ago #161781
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Searching for the connection points for Thcad300 yesterday was stressy.. As well as results..
I found some points measured directly 123V when torch on...
Soldered cables on and measured 500v at the end of the cables.
Experimented with isolated, Grounded isolation one end etc.
At the end the thickness seems to make a difference....and length!
I don't know if I should change the cables again since I am about 165V torch on.. I hope in using thc it should not make a difference except level is a bit shifted.
I found some points measured directly 123V when torch on...
Soldered cables on and measured 500v at the end of the cables.
Experimented with isolated, Grounded isolation one end etc.
At the end the thickness seems to make a difference....and length!
I don't know if I should change the cables again since I am about 165V torch on.. I hope in using thc it should not make a difference except level is a bit shifted.
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6 years 7 months ago #161802
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Are you measuring that while cutting ?
165V is reasonable, as now you are measuring before the inductors and current limiting, so it is normal to have higher readings.
On a Thermal Dynamics plasma the voltage while cutting was 185V when set to 30A, 130V when set at 70A and 120 when set at 90A.
165V is reasonable, as now you are measuring before the inductors and current limiting, so it is normal to have higher readings.
On a Thermal Dynamics plasma the voltage while cutting was 185V when set to 30A, 130V when set at 70A and 120 when set at 90A.
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6 years 7 months ago #161820
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Hello ,
Took signals from here after conductors before arc starting induction.
Thank you Tom the trick with the cheap DVM this is great.!
Took signals from here after conductors before arc starting induction.
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Thank you Tom the trick with the cheap DVM this is great.!
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6 years 7 months ago #161826
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Dear Phillc54 ,
it did not work...at second and third attempt etc. i don't even get the slightest spark , relais triggers but very very short.
max value is 200Volt.
I tried a single cut .
here pulse test
I even tried with 0 volts min, arc ok, also does not work...
something is as well fishi after sometimes I try the single cut the Z when I try to lower it dives full in the material and I have to hit estop.
this does not happen on pulse test ...strange...
thx
it did not work...at second and third attempt etc. i don't even get the slightest spark , relais triggers but very very short.
max value is 200Volt.
I tried a single cut .
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here pulse test
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I even tried with 0 volts min, arc ok, also does not work...
something is as well fishi after sometimes I try the single cut the Z when I try to lower it dives full in the material and I have to hit estop.
this does not happen on pulse test ...strange...
thx
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6 years 7 months ago #161827
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
ups.. a bit high ??
again single cut...
I can tomorrow as with Tommylight discussed make again connections before the inductors.
again single cut...
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I can tomorrow as with Tommylight discussed make again connections before the inductors.
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6 years 7 months ago #161853
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
I changed Arc OK High limit to 300 late January. I have just pushed a change with the limit at 9999 so you could update and set your limit to 9999.
Also can you increase the volts/div on the plasmac:arc-voltage-out so we can see what the voltage is.
Also can you increase the volts/div on the plasmac:arc-voltage-out so we can see what the voltage is.
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6 years 7 months ago #161865
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
On that last screenshot you have 27000V !!!
Check the scaling as it seems off.
Are you sure the resistors are wired properly on the THCAD and the burned out lines are replaced with wires ?
Check the scaling as it seems off.
Are you sure the resistors are wired properly on the THCAD and the burned out lines are replaced with wires ?
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6 years 7 months ago #161872
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
That 27000 would be scaled by the Voltage Scale of 0.012042 to be about 325V which I think is still wrong but I cant see the actual result on the plot.
Either way it is going to shut down because it is more than the 200 Arc OK High.
Either way it is going to shut down because it is more than the 200 Arc OK High.
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