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28 Jul 2018 21:45 #115029 by rjd1234
I'm having an issue where things that are supposed to be circles are coming out looking like ovals. I am having a hard time troubleshooting this so I thought maybe someone has had a similar issue. I searched the forum and didn't find it... maybe it is there and I just missed it.

Here is what I have tried:
1. I tightened both x and y axis belts... they are tight.
2. I checked the calibration of both axis. They both matched exactly... like within 0.01" over 14 inches.
3. I have tried lowering and raising the amperage... no change.
4. I have tried raising and lowering the arc length.
5. I have played with different feedrates... no change.
6. I have pulled the torch out and ran the program with a pen.

See the attached pictures. Not only do the circles look like ovals.... there is way too much slag.

I can think of two possibilities:
1. There is too much play in the y gantry. It isn't super stout. I can move it with my hand... I just didn't really think that it needed to be super stout considering it is plasma and not milling. Also, why is the test with the pen bad?
2. Some software setting in LinuxCNC that I am not aware of.

I'm a new-comer to the world of LinuxCNC and plasma CNC. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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29 Jul 2018 09:47 #115053 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Circles look like ovals
Plasma can not do small circles, due to air being whirled around when it gets out of the nozzle. I never try to do circles under 30 mm in diameter.
Also you can not do small circles with plasma and then fix them with a drill, you end up with lots of useless drill bits. The surface of the cut is hardened after cutting with plasma.
Slag looks like it is due to low cutting speed, or hot slag, it is very hard to remove. The feed speed is to low or the air pressure is to low or the nozzle is gone. That also depends on the type of material.
Getting good cuts requires a lot of testing and finding the right feed rate and current. Air, anything under 4.5 to 5 BAR will not get clean cuts, and the cheap torches are useless for anything but separation of material.

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29 Jul 2018 15:03 #115062 by rjd1234
Replied by rjd1234 on topic Circles look like ovals
Thanks for your response. I had the same thought at first that the holes might be too small for the material thickness. So I also ran a test with a pen and paper and got the same ovals. Also, the large circles are elliptical in the same direction as the small holes.

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29 Jul 2018 19:57 #115071 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Circles look like ovals
Yeah that looks like mechanical sloppiness, but can also be due to low acceleration. What do you have set for acceleration? It can also be from the conversion from CAD to gcode.
Use inkscape, draw circles and convert them to paths ( in inkscape ), export them as gcode with gcodetools ( in inkscape ). See how that looks and how the cuts look.

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29 Jul 2018 22:10 #115082 by Grotius
Replied by Grotius on topic Circles look like ovals
Hi Rick,

Adapt this line in your post-processor or in top of g-code file :
G40 G64 P0.005 (machine follow path accuracy)
Cut your sample at 2000mm/min.

Then your holes look like this :


If not, your hardware needs modification.
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30 Jul 2018 12:30 #115127 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Circles look like ovals
Does the config have backlash compensation enabled? Perhaps the numbers are wrong?

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