Building Plasma table 1250 x 700
15 Jul 2019 22:02 #139508
by Clive S
Building Plasma table 1250 x 700 was created by Clive S
As the title says Building Plasma table 1250 x 700
Basic table is done with mod 1 rack on X and Y 1204 ball screw on Z.
X and Y has 3 No. nema 34's - nema 23 on Z all being driven with 68V
Q1 what speeds do I need so that I can work out the gearing for the drive pinion on the rack (I was thinking about 16 tooth on motor and 44 teeth on pinion shaft )
Q2 With ball screw of 1204 what ratio will I need on the Z with the nema 23 ( ie what mtr/min will be good for Z)
Q3 How much travel do I need for the float switch on Z
Thanks
This is all for hobby use.
Basic table is done with mod 1 rack on X and Y 1204 ball screw on Z.
X and Y has 3 No. nema 34's - nema 23 on Z all being driven with 68V
Q1 what speeds do I need so that I can work out the gearing for the drive pinion on the rack (I was thinking about 16 tooth on motor and 44 teeth on pinion shaft )
Q2 With ball screw of 1204 what ratio will I need on the Z with the nema 23 ( ie what mtr/min will be good for Z)
Q3 How much travel do I need for the float switch on Z
Thanks
This is all for hobby use.
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15 Jul 2019 22:25 #139509
by tommylight
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How much travel for one revolution of the pinion ?
You need from 15 to 25 mm of travel per motor revolution.
Nema 34 are to big for that small of a machine, even some 1.2A nema 17 will do just fine. Big motors cause big vibrations, so you will need microstepping to avoid vibrations, at least x8.
For Z axis you need at least 400mm/min, 900 to 1200 is plenty fast, with your motor and voltage very easy to achieve with direct drive.
As litle as possible, just enough to trip the switch.
Make the Z axis longer so you can have the water table at least 15 cm below the machine frame, keeps the water from getting all over the machine. 10cm travel is a bare minimum for comfortable use, 20 would be nice. This is for Z axis travel.
You need from 15 to 25 mm of travel per motor revolution.
Nema 34 are to big for that small of a machine, even some 1.2A nema 17 will do just fine. Big motors cause big vibrations, so you will need microstepping to avoid vibrations, at least x8.
For Z axis you need at least 400mm/min, 900 to 1200 is plenty fast, with your motor and voltage very easy to achieve with direct drive.
As litle as possible, just enough to trip the switch.
Make the Z axis longer so you can have the water table at least 15 cm below the machine frame, keeps the water from getting all over the machine. 10cm travel is a bare minimum for comfortable use, 20 would be nice. This is for Z axis travel.
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15 Jul 2019 22:32 #139510
by tommylight
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You can try direct drive on the X and Y axis, if you have drives with good microstepping and can afford to go x16 or x32, might get nice smooth motion despite the long travel per revolution.
Had to do that on a 3.5X2 m machine using direct drive and nema 34.
Been nearly 4 years from that, almost forgot to mention.
Had to do that on a 3.5X2 m machine using direct drive and nema 34.
Been nearly 4 years from that, almost forgot to mention.
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15 Jul 2019 23:20 #139512
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Building Plasma table 1250 x 700
Clive, on my machine I have 5:1 on NEMA 34's on the Y and that works well.
On the X with NEMA 23 I have 3:1 reduction. The plasma primer has a bit on ideal distance per mm based on some stuff Tommy shared as I got going that he has forgotten about. So feel free to work off that and we can blame Tommy if it does not work out
My top speed is 21 m/min and a lot of guys like to get up around the 800 in/min which is where i'm at (826 in/min)
Dont forget to look at the external offsets section of the primer wen setting up your ini file
On the X with NEMA 23 I have 3:1 reduction. The plasma primer has a bit on ideal distance per mm based on some stuff Tommy shared as I got going that he has forgotten about. So feel free to work off that and we can blame Tommy if it does not work out
My top speed is 21 m/min and a lot of guys like to get up around the 800 in/min which is where i'm at (826 in/min)
Dont forget to look at the external offsets section of the primer wen setting up your ini file
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16 Jul 2019 06:57 - 16 Jul 2019 07:00 #139542
by Clive S
Replied by Clive S on topic Building Plasma table 1250 x 700
Thanks to Tommy and Rod. Also to Phil for the PlasmaC he started it so I had to build one to see what the fuss was all about
I am committed to belt drives as I have built several routers like this and just like the idea as it seem to keep the vibrations at bay. I already had the nema 34's for the rack which came from a big machine.
I have 150mm to the table top on Z. 2 motors on the gantry
Some pics for you to have a laugh at
photos.app.goo.gl/CZ4oUyMCefcYL13M6
I am committed to belt drives as I have built several routers like this and just like the idea as it seem to keep the vibrations at bay. I already had the nema 34's for the rack which came from a big machine.
I have 150mm to the table top on Z. 2 motors on the gantry
Some pics for you to have a laugh at
photos.app.goo.gl/CZ4oUyMCefcYL13M6
Last edit: 16 Jul 2019 07:00 by Clive S.
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