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29 Jul 2021 22:39 - 30 Jul 2021 10:16 #216279
by shpatb
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29 Jul 2021 22:45 #216280
by thefabricator03
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Do you have a wiring diagram you can post? What problems are you having exactly?
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29 Jul 2021 22:52 #216281
by Bari
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Star grounding to avoid ground loops is one.
www.loopslooth.com/Safety%20&%20Star%20Gnd.html
www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/
www.loopslooth.com/Safety%20&%20Star%20Gnd.html
www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/
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29 Jul 2021 23:08 - 29 Jul 2021 23:09 #216283
by rodw
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Do everything in the attached. (Note better motors include a grounding point to attach the star ground wires.)
Add an RFI/EMI filter on the mains inlet
Use a quality industrial 24 volt power supply eg Meanwell etc
Make sure there is a grounding patch across all linear guides.
That should solve your problem.
The biggest source of noise I found was entering via the mains power earth so the EMI filter is critical.
EDIT: Also layout of your control panel is critical to keep mains power, motor power and logic power seperated.
Add an RFI/EMI filter on the mains inlet
Use a quality industrial 24 volt power supply eg Meanwell etc
Make sure there is a grounding patch across all linear guides.
That should solve your problem.
The biggest source of noise I found was entering via the mains power earth so the EMI filter is critical.
EDIT: Also layout of your control panel is critical to keep mains power, motor power and logic power seperated.
Last edit: 29 Jul 2021 23:09 by rodw.
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30 Jul 2021 05:48 #216307
by shpatb
Replied by shpatb on topic Ultimate guidance to avoid Electromagnetic
Thanks for you replies.
problems : Inaccurate cutting ,arc will start for pierce then stop for 1-2 mm then continue ,keyboard freezes , etc etc
problems : Inaccurate cutting ,arc will start for pierce then stop for 1-2 mm then continue ,keyboard freezes , etc etc
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30 Jul 2021 05:51 - 30 Jul 2021 05:52 #216309
by shpatb
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I Have seperate groundings : One for the plasma table , and one for pc and electronics.
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30 Jul 2021 06:32 #216320
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Ultimate guidance to avoid Electromagnetic
More information please.
What plasma cutter (with URL for it)?
What control hardware?
What sized motors?
What voltage for motors?
What power supplies are you using in the control box?
What Plasmac Mode?
How are you obtaining an ArcOK?
If you run that job with the torch disabled, does it follow the correct path?
What plasma cutter (with URL for it)?
What control hardware?
What sized motors?
What voltage for motors?
What power supplies are you using in the control box?
What Plasmac Mode?
How are you obtaining an ArcOK?
If you run that job with the torch disabled, does it follow the correct path?
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30 Jul 2021 10:05 #216331
by shpatb
Replied by shpatb on topic Ultimate guidance to avoid Electromagnetic
Thanks for reply Mr.Rod
1.stahwerk cut 70 igbt
2.2x breakoutboards
3.3Nm stepper motors
4.36V DC
5.Act motor psu-s
4.latest plasmaC
Yes with torch disabled it runs perfectly . i have dual configs with mach 3 and PlasmaC , perfectly on both.
Attached some pictures to make it more clear.
regards Shpat
1.stahwerk cut 70 igbt
2.2x breakoutboards
3.3Nm stepper motors
4.36V DC
5.Act motor psu-s
4.latest plasmaC
Yes with torch disabled it runs perfectly . i have dual configs with mach 3 and PlasmaC , perfectly on both.
Attached some pictures to make it more clear.
regards Shpat
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30 Jul 2021 10:12 #216332
by shpatb
Replied by shpatb on topic Ultimate guidance to avoid Electromagnetic
Today ill order new plasma of CNC stamos s85 , will change the cables of motors to shielded ones , will change the power supply cable of my shop from 5G2.5 copper to 4x25 alu ,Will add a mesa controller , if this doesnt solve this problem ill definetely sell this machine for scrap.
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30 Jul 2021 10:27 #216333
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Ultimate guidance to avoid Electromagnetic Interference
Looks like its a HF start machine?
Lower voltage on the BOBs is not helping.
Make sure you use 24V with the mesa for greater noise immunity.
Move your PC away from the control box as the ethernet cable will add more isolation
Add a RFI filter to the mains power entering the control box.
Try and run your shielded stepper cables right to the stepper drive and ground the shield right there.
Try and earth to the motor across to your existing earths.
Lower voltage on the BOBs is not helping.
Make sure you use 24V with the mesa for greater noise immunity.
Move your PC away from the control box as the ethernet cable will add more isolation
Add a RFI filter to the mains power entering the control box.
Try and run your shielded stepper cables right to the stepper drive and ground the shield right there.
Try and earth to the motor across to your existing earths.
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