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31 May 2025 00:15 #329414
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hello all
I'm planning to build a fabric laser cutting machine
but as I have not enough space (and money) for buying a real machine and as I need to cut very long part, I've come up with an idea
I will keep fabric on 2 rollers (1.5 m long) passing from one side on another from a cutting line (Y axis) with a moving laser diode head (X axis)
if it was so simple I would use a cheap 3D printer / cn machin controler but whatbrings me here is that I need a closed loop position controller
idea is that roller will be motorised by 2 motors ( left and right ) and will only working by pulling on fabric ( meaning that 2 motors will work in +Y and 2 in -Y) but I can't rely only on steps on motor to move accurately the fabric as depending on roller fabric diameter changing the distance of fabric moving on cutting line
on the other hand fabric can also moves on X axis when rolling and unrolling and objective is to use differential of both right and left motors to correct position
in my idea the close loop in postion control can be supporte by an optical mouse sensor that can track X and Y moves and I can put 2 on each side right and left
my question is: is linux cnc can be configured to adapt of this strange machine ?
I'm planning to build a fabric laser cutting machine
but as I have not enough space (and money) for buying a real machine and as I need to cut very long part, I've come up with an idea
I will keep fabric on 2 rollers (1.5 m long) passing from one side on another from a cutting line (Y axis) with a moving laser diode head (X axis)
if it was so simple I would use a cheap 3D printer / cn machin controler but whatbrings me here is that I need a closed loop position controller
idea is that roller will be motorised by 2 motors ( left and right ) and will only working by pulling on fabric ( meaning that 2 motors will work in +Y and 2 in -Y) but I can't rely only on steps on motor to move accurately the fabric as depending on roller fabric diameter changing the distance of fabric moving on cutting line

on the other hand fabric can also moves on X axis when rolling and unrolling and objective is to use differential of both right and left motors to correct position
in my idea the close loop in postion control can be supporte by an optical mouse sensor that can track X and Y moves and I can put 2 on each side right and left
my question is: is linux cnc can be configured to adapt of this strange machine ?
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31 May 2025 00:17 #329415
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thank's for any advice / idea / help
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31 May 2025 01:55 #329422
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Most probably, yes.
Stuff helpful to know:
-what is the maximum Y length in one go?
Stuff randomly wandering through my tired brain:
-would be easier to use ESP-CAM for side monitoring and adjustment
-encoders can be tracking the material on both sides as LinuxCNC can use 2 or more encoder feedback's for the same joint/axis
-see "bottle labeling machine" for the type of sensor used for aligning the labeling foil (stuck my finger between the cutting and gluing rollers on one of those 2 weeks ago, what a mess!
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Stuff helpful to know:
-what is the maximum Y length in one go?
Stuff randomly wandering through my tired brain:
-would be easier to use ESP-CAM for side monitoring and adjustment
-encoders can be tracking the material on both sides as LinuxCNC can use 2 or more encoder feedback's for the same joint/axis
-see "bottle labeling machine" for the type of sensor used for aligning the labeling foil (stuck my finger between the cutting and gluing rollers on one of those 2 weeks ago, what a mess!

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31 May 2025 04:23 #329424
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Cool idea. I also think this shoul be possible.
I am thinking of servos instead of steppers. Reason is build in encoders (ok cl steppers have it too) and the possibility to change to torque mode. So the two pulling servos in position mode doing the move and the two servos in torque mode can build up adjustable tension.
This setup than could be used as an initial meassure of the layer thickness and correct values for that.
I can imagine some kind of tape at the sides for all corrections. Like the tape on the shaper woodworking cnc handheld machine (dont know the exact name right now). This way you can use a camera like system an be on track all the time I guess.
I am thinking of servos instead of steppers. Reason is build in encoders (ok cl steppers have it too) and the possibility to change to torque mode. So the two pulling servos in position mode doing the move and the two servos in torque mode can build up adjustable tension.
This setup than could be used as an initial meassure of the layer thickness and correct values for that.
I can imagine some kind of tape at the sides for all corrections. Like the tape on the shaper woodworking cnc handheld machine (dont know the exact name right now). This way you can use a camera like system an be on track all the time I guess.
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31 May 2025 08:53 #329429
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I would think that your biggest issue is going to be the stretching of the fabric and that partly cut sections are going to get bunched up as you move the material back and forth.
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31 May 2025 09:15 #329432
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Once the fabric is tensioned, linuxcnc should be able to use the joint axes to control 4 motors in unison. Normally, it is just used for 2 on both sides of a gantry but I know its Been used on a 4 joint Z axis where all 4 corners are lifted..
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31 May 2025 09:16 #329433
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Oops, just thought. the tension should be able to be done using home offsets
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01 Jun 2025 15:23 #329516
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hello every one thank's a lot for your supporting reviews
I will try to reply all your questions
maximumm Y length : could be mostly infinite but more probably arround 10 to 50 m as I'm mainly intrested in kite building (or hot air balloons if it works
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fabric to be cut will be mainly spinaker nylon witch is unstrechable and has 2 different sizes of frame that make a small patern easyly sens by optical mouse sensors
ESP cam is a great idea if it could keep track of move even when speed rising up mouse sensor is mainly a very low res grey scale cam
fabric tension : first idea was only to add a bit aof static friction on non pulling side motors but torque management is a good point too
it could also avoid me to do somthing I've not explain yet I was planning to make in cutting back plate 2 serries of holes and hook it to small but enough vacuum source to suck the fabric on the back plate and cut between tow lines of holes
to avoid wrinkles and other disasters when roolling and unrolling already cut parts I was thinking doing some kind of timestamping or tabs like on pcb pannels or others flat milling machines or wood or composites pannels
thank's for all your advice
now I think the best thing is to try few things
can you please advise me some harware in order to connect all of this
6 stepper controller (may be I will use one more small stepper to focus laser beam)
and 2 or 3 esp cam or mouse sensors (may be I can also get a closed loop on X axis)
I will try to reply all your questions
maximumm Y length : could be mostly infinite but more probably arround 10 to 50 m as I'm mainly intrested in kite building (or hot air balloons if it works

fabric to be cut will be mainly spinaker nylon witch is unstrechable and has 2 different sizes of frame that make a small patern easyly sens by optical mouse sensors
ESP cam is a great idea if it could keep track of move even when speed rising up mouse sensor is mainly a very low res grey scale cam
fabric tension : first idea was only to add a bit aof static friction on non pulling side motors but torque management is a good point too
it could also avoid me to do somthing I've not explain yet I was planning to make in cutting back plate 2 serries of holes and hook it to small but enough vacuum source to suck the fabric on the back plate and cut between tow lines of holes
to avoid wrinkles and other disasters when roolling and unrolling already cut parts I was thinking doing some kind of timestamping or tabs like on pcb pannels or others flat milling machines or wood or composites pannels
thank's for all your advice
now I think the best thing is to try few things
can you please advise me some harware in order to connect all of this
6 stepper controller (may be I will use one more small stepper to focus laser beam)
and 2 or 3 esp cam or mouse sensors (may be I can also get a closed loop on X axis)
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