I am an idiot...3D Probe with Probe Basic

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3 years 2 months ago #277959 by spumco

Issue 1, I most of the time I forget to remove the tool from the spindle, not the actual probe itself, but I forget to press: UNLOAD SPINDLE and take it back to "0". This caused quite a commotion the first time I did it. 

 

You're not the only one to get bitten by this.

I've got an idea about physically removing a tool and forgetting to 'notify' PB by emptying the spindle.  Or worse, sticking a tool in the spindle and forgetting to tell PB it's there.

I've got a momentary button on my spindle head I use to manually release a tool.  I'm thinking of creating an on-screen message and linking it in HAL (or PB) so that whenever the drawbar is activated manually I get a pop-up reminder to update the PB ATC page.

If you don't have an ATC this message would get really old, really fast.  But for the once or twice a session it might help avoid a dummy mistake.

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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #277966 by msrdiesel

You're not the only one to get bitten by this.

I've got an idea about physically removing a tool and forgetting to 'notify' PB by emptying the spindle.  Or worse, sticking a tool in the spindle and forgetting to tell PB it's there.

I've got a momentary button on my spindle head I use to manually release a tool.  I'm thinking of creating an on-screen message and linking it in HAL (or PB) so that whenever the drawbar is activated manually I get a pop-up reminder to update the PB ATC page.

If you don't have an ATC this message would get really old, really fast.  But for the once or twice a session it might help avoid a dummy mistake.



 

 

I haven't put much thought into doing that just yet, but I did take a few moments to go over some logic in my head this morning. At a minimum, since my machine has buttons to both open and close the drawbar, or clamp and un-clamp the tool I think I have an idea. If I have a tool greater than #16 in the spindle (my ATC holds 16 tools), then just set the tool in the spindle to "0", if it is unclamped.

It would sure be easier and would cause no issues for the tool NOT to be in the spindle.

The sad part is this will take awhile to figure out how to implement, where as if this was a Visual Studio program in C, I could have it done in minutes. Guess I will try unclamp tool in the subroutines, and see what I can do there.
 
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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #277976 by msrdiesel

Never mind, delete post please.

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3 years 2 months ago #277994 by Lcvette
Ive not run into this, but then my process is to unload the tool in PB and then go in physically and remove the tool. In this method i dont forget.

When loading, i load in pb and then put the tool in the spindle.

If you train yourself this way it will never be an issue.

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3 years 2 months ago #277997 by msrdiesel
But you thankfully don't have my brain. I keep NOT remeberi...

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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #278028 by msrdiesel

You're not the only one to get bitten by this.

I've got an idea about physically removing a tool and forgetting to 'notify' PB by emptying the spindle.  Or worse, sticking a tool in the spindle and forgetting to tell PB it's there.

I've got a momentary button on my spindle head I use to manually release a tool.  I'm thinking of creating an on-screen message and linking it in HAL (or PB) so that whenever the drawbar is activated manually I get a pop-up reminder to update the PB ATC page.

If you don't have an ATC this message would get really old, really fast.  But for the once or twice a session it might help avoid a dummy mistake.

I set mine up to just clear out the loaded tool when it is #99, when I open the drawbar and unclamp it. Only time I will be doing that operation of removing it from the spindle is to remove it after probing anyway. I just added an if statement in M24 which unclamps the tool. I have separate buttons to clamp/unclamp or open/close the drawbar.
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