Probe_Basic ToolTouchOff

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03 Dec 2023 09:26 #287080 by CNC_ANDI
Hello everyone. I´ve got a working Carousel Toolchanger like it´s included in Probe_Basic....

Now I have tried to Touch off a tool that was not in Carousel but it won´t work.

i can only touch off tools where they has a pocket in the atc.. WHY?

i think it´s much easier to clamp a new tool manual and touch it off.

i´ve disabled the tooltouchoff in Automatic (running Programm) mode.

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03 Dec 2023 17:15 #287106 by Lcvette
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more information needed, you should be able to touch off any tool in the tool table regardless of it being in the carousel or not. i show this working in the video below i made on youtube.



so perhaps its a difference in your macros if they have been changed? give more data to work with for trouble shooting please!

Chris

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03 Dec 2023 17:47 #287110 by CNC_ANDI
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thx. i only changed from the normal M6 to the remap m6 for the toolchanger. but when i will touch my tool that is not in changer it will be place it in the changer... so i most load this tool from changer before i can touch off this tool.

what files do you need? my tool_touch_off is modified yes.

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03 Dec 2023 18:03 - 03 Dec 2023 18:03 #287113 by Lcvette
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if you are manually loading a tool by hand using the load spindle entry box on the tool or atc page it should work. the issue we face which we are actively trying to solve is being able to bring in ui parameters to remapped subroutines. they ignore ui parameter requests. the code to connect ui parameter line edits resides in qtpyvcp widgets which aren't recognized in remap. so if you are trying to utilize any parameter settings during a remapped call it will fail. you will need to hard code those into the subroutine.
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03 Dec 2023 18:24 #287115 by CNC_ANDI
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ok before i got my toolchanger working i´ve used this touch_off.ngc
 

File Attachment:

File Name: tool_touch_off.ngc
File Size:12 KB


so can i hold this file? and can i comment out 11. (the toolchange section)
or i have to replace it with the original one?

i need the offsets for my facemills because my touchplate is 10mm only or will this work with the original ngc too at the xy offset in the tooltable?
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03 Dec 2023 19:38 #287129 by dpslwk
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Firstly PB does not automatically to tool length measure on M6 (etc enabled or not)

As your ATC the following is with the stock Probe Basic
toolchange.ngc
and
tool_touch_off.ngc
and the remaps as per config conversions post

the procedure to load a new tool and measure its length goes something like this

Prerequisite settings are correct on the OFFSETS tab, with the tool touch off X and Y set, but the Z 0
and the spindle zero is the distance between the top of the tool setter an d the nose of the spindle when its at Z0
G59.3 need to be set to X0, Y0, Z0

1) Add tool information to the tool table. T number, diameter and description. Save and reload

2) load tool into spindle at the machine

3) Tell PB that the tool is in the spindle, on either the ATC or TOOL tab, enter the T number in to the box load spindle box and click "LOAD SPIDLE". The tool number should now show in the spindle and M6 boxes

4) Click the "TOUCH OFF CURRENT TOOL" button. This will measure the tool and update the table

5) either "STORE TOOL IN CAROUSEL" or remove from the machine manually and let PB know by clicking "UNLOAD SPINDLE"



now if you wish to add auto tool length measurements after each and every M6 call (even when running a program), I would just edit
toolchange.ngc
and at the end just before the program coolant stuff add in an
o<tool_touch_off> call
but you will need to include your setting from the OFFSETS tab manually

for my machine that would be something like
o<program_coolant> call [300] [50] [100] [5] [2] [118.2432] [0] [0] [0] [#5410]
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03 Dec 2023 19:49 #287132 by dpslwk
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o<program_coolant> call [300] [50] [100] [5] [2] [118.2432] [0] [0] [0] [#5410]

that should have been
o< tool_touch_off> call [300] [50] [100] [5] [2] [118.2432] [0] [0] [0] [#5410]
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04 Dec 2023 19:17 #287211 by CNC_ANDI
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I don't need auto tool measurement.

Ok got it work with the original tool_touch_off.ngc

I am only added 2 things. From the old tool_touch_off by ToolTall

1. Offset for big tools

my toolsetterplate only have 14mm so i can't measure tools than bigger like 14mm
This mod makes a auto offset of 50% or what you want (you can set it by yourself) in the direction you want for tools
Where bigger than 14mm or what you want (you can set it by yourself)



2. Other measure point for 3D Probe with Z offset to the normal toolsetter

This mod will make a another measure point for my 3D Probe and includes a Z offset to the normal toolsetter.
The toolnumber, coordinates, offset must set by yourself.


I will include the ngc tomorrow.

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06 Dec 2023 16:57 #287368 by CNC_ANDI
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so here is my actually working tool_touch_off.ngc
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07 Dec 2023 16:43 #287460 by Lcvette
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Probe basic has diameter offset built in Already,  you need to check the button for it on the offsets page.  This moves the tool to its edge centered over the tool setters center. This is useful for larger diameter tools such as fly cutters and facemills.
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