Probe Basic and Carousel ATC with Geneva and Stepper

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1 year 6 months ago #327105 by IB_CnC
Thanks, I will try to set it up the same way with both sensors needing to be high for homing.

I've made a little setup with optical sensors and for indexing just added a "flag" to my drive wheel.
The homing sensor and flag are below the pocket which is the pickup location for the spindle, as it just happened to be a good spot.

 

 
 
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1 year 6 months ago #327324 by IB_CnC
Allright!!!! Got the carousel working! Or atleast I can control and home it from the Probe Basic Gui and index it as well, altough I had to struggle a bit.

It's setup with the step generator PCB + 2 relays and two optical sensors.

- Had to figure out how to wire the relays in a way that both carousel directions were switching the "ON/OFF" circuit on the small stepgen PCB, but only 1 direction / relay would close the DIR circuit.
- Had to change 1 parameter in the M13 homing subroutine (P4 to P3), seems to be a typo.
- Had to configure the Index signal with AND2 logic for the M13 homing subroutine, so it looks for both the Index and the Pulse sensors during homing.
- Had some trouble with my NPN optical sensors, because I thought my Mesa 7i84 daughtercard was using NPN, while in reality I needed PNP. image missing /media/kunena/emoticons/whistling.png image missing /media/kunena/emoticons/laughing.png

One problem, the drive wheel sensor flag overshoots the sensor by about 25 degrees during homing and index steps.
So when you home or index the carousel, the flag is passing the sensor completely due to deceleration it seems.
The result is if the follow up index movement is in the opposite direction, the flag gets detected after turning back only 25 degrees, with the physical carousel not stepping an index position, while the software does register +1 index pocket.
Not sure I can change decel with the stepgen PCB setup.

Two options to solve I think:
1- Create a longer flag on the drivewheel, so more like a lobe, which allows some more margin
2- Replace the drive wheel index sensor for a pulse flag on each pocket. The decel timing will give the geneva drive pin enough time to move out of the slot and properly engage.

Will try option 1 first, as I can just print a new disc with a longer flag. :-)

 

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1 year 6 months ago #327325 by IB_CnC
Anyways, the basic functionality is working.
I still have to wire up and map the ATC spindle PNP sensors to detect clamping / unclamping and the sensors for the out position of the Carousel cylinder, before I can try to run a toolchange. But that should work out fine.
Once everything is working, I'll do a writeup how it's configured.

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #327329 by IB_CnC
I think this will solve the issue:
Will try today!
 

 
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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #327337 by IB_CnC
Basic homing and CW/CW rotation indexing working fine now!
Altough it responds with a small delay (due to the stepgen PCB)

Some vids:






Next step is mapping and wiring the other sensors!
 
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1 year 6 months ago #327345 by tommylight
Any idea why such a long delay between pressing a button and the actual move?

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