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2 years 3 months ago #306300 by stustev
It allows you to align the electronic Z axis to the tool axis.

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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #306306 by Aciera
Thanks for your comments.

Please allow me to clarify a few things:

Then, you would program a rotation of the second rotary axis using a second line of G68 code.

G68.x commands using euler angles will define both rotary axes in a single line because the new work plane can be completely defined by X,Y,Z offsets and the three euler angles I,J,K. If you want to define the work plane using 3 points or 2 vectors then you need more than one line of G68.2 Px Qx commands to enter all the parameters.
G68.x will define the offset and orientation of the tool plane but cause no machine motion.
G53.x will then align the tool to the tool plane (ie this will cause machine motion) AND switch the offsets to the new WCS. This is the reason why G53.x always follows immediately after a G68.x (which is what the guy in the first video I posted was wondering about). The G53.x codes can only be used once the work plane has been completely defined.

G68 X Y Z A B C

Note, G68.x codes do not use A,B or C words.

It was much less confusing to program the needed motion using a CAD/CAM system and not worry about the operator losing orientation.

TWP can be used in CAM/PP gcode generation as well as in manual programming on the controller.


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Just to be clear, I'm not trying to sell the 'TWP' feature here. I've had use for it on kinematics with tool side rotation and I decided to donate my work for people interested in it. I've built machines where this is used regularly for manual programming on the controller. Expanding it to kinematics with work side rotation would really only mean more donated work for me. All I'm trying to do here is explain what it actually does because there clearly is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding about it even among people who do use it. It's a tool in the toolbox whether you find it useful or not is up to you.
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2 years 3 months ago #306315 by Becksvill
Aceria

I'm very interested I have seen it used on a Heidenhain machine

Really cool

You can rotate the head and then machine away like normal.

Anyway I'll get the machine cutting and see how I go

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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #306317 by Aciera

You can rotate the head and then machine away like normal.


Exactly. This is why it's so much easier to demonstrate the value of TWP on machines with tool side rotation.

forum.linuxcnc.org/media/kunena/attachme...5994/TWP_example.gif
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2 years 3 months ago #306319 by stustev
Heh - I have never used or explored G68.x or G53.x. I probably would have if I was the operator on my machine if my machine did not have LinuxCNC controlling it. When I found OpenCNC (in 1997) and then EMC/EMC2 (~2000) I stopped exploring Fanuc (or any other) controls.
Sounds like LinuxCNC has some catching up to do if anyone wants to use those features.

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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #306321 by Aciera

Sounds like LinuxCNC has some catching up to do if anyone wants to use those features.



The inclusion of switchable kinematics has made it possible:

forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/49103...-head?start=0#271334
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