2.8pre gantry racking
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07 Jun 2018 19:28 #111925
by llamatrails
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Yeah, and I don't see it with my fluke meter or the hal meter. This wires through a Gecko G540.
Off to the 2nd parallel port ...
Rick
Off to the 2nd parallel port ...
Rick
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07 Jun 2018 19:39 #111927
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Does halmeter show the home-pins actually change state? (joint.0.home-sw-in, joint.1.home-sw-in )
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07 Jun 2018 20:33 #111933
by andypugh
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Try setting HOME_IS_SHARED
It is possible that the homing moves are starting before the other axes are off of the (shared) switch.
It is possible that the homing moves are starting before the other axes are off of the (shared) switch.
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07 Jun 2018 22:04 #111942
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Yes the halmeter does show the pins changing state. All are FALSE and turn to TRUE when I trip them one by one.
I've also tried setting HOME_IS_SHARED both ways, 0 and 1 to no avail.
Z completes, the Y completes, both are at HOME which is not touching the micro switch. The gantry (X) will then head towards the switches, X0 will trip and back off, X1 will then head in, trip the switch and keep going as though it never found the switch.
My next move is to move the shared switches as they are on pins 11/12 of parallel port 0 to 11/12 of parallel port 1. I want to proof to myself that the wiring and ini/hal files are ok, maybe the G540 in the way somehow.
Rick
I've also tried setting HOME_IS_SHARED both ways, 0 and 1 to no avail.
Z completes, the Y completes, both are at HOME which is not touching the micro switch. The gantry (X) will then head towards the switches, X0 will trip and back off, X1 will then head in, trip the switch and keep going as though it never found the switch.
My next move is to move the shared switches as they are on pins 11/12 of parallel port 0 to 11/12 of parallel port 1. I want to proof to myself that the wiring and ini/hal files are ok, maybe the G540 in the way somehow.
Rick
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07 Jun 2018 23:12 #111950
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic 2.8pre gantry racking
Can I suggest using Halscope to watch the joint.N.home-sw-in pins, just to make completely sure that they are tripping during the actual sequence?
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07 Jun 2018 23:44 #111952
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Yep, will do.
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08 Jun 2018 21:15 #112025
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Well, the saga is over.
I moved the home switches to a second parallel port card so I could have enough pins for separate home switches instead of paralleling them. Same issue, the X axis would set one side and rack the other. Grrr. Halscope does show the joint.N.home-sw-in tripping as expected.
Since it made a difference before, I swapped the pins for the X joints in the hal file. Success !!! It now homes ZYXX as I want, and works repeatedly.
Why the pin swap makes a difference I don't know. Different parallel port, cable, BOB, individual wiring to the micro switches, all gave the same problem. After all this and finally getting a working system, I got an update notice for 2.8pre. May swap the pins back to see if the update does anything when I have some time.
Off to make parts again.
Thanks all,
Rick
I moved the home switches to a second parallel port card so I could have enough pins for separate home switches instead of paralleling them. Same issue, the X axis would set one side and rack the other. Grrr. Halscope does show the joint.N.home-sw-in tripping as expected.
Since it made a difference before, I swapped the pins for the X joints in the hal file. Success !!! It now homes ZYXX as I want, and works repeatedly.
Why the pin swap makes a difference I don't know. Different parallel port, cable, BOB, individual wiring to the micro switches, all gave the same problem. After all this and finally getting a working system, I got an update notice for 2.8pre. May swap the pins back to see if the update does anything when I have some time.
Off to make parts again.
Thanks all,
Rick
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08 Jun 2018 21:50 #112028
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I wouldn't expect the update to have any effect. I am pretty sure nothing much has changed there.
homing.c hasn't changed since february last year: github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commits/mas.../emc/motion/homing.c
Can you show us the before and after versions of the code, perhaps it is in some way explicable?
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Why the pin swap makes a difference I don't know. Different parallel port, cable, BOB, individual wiring to the micro switches, all gave the same problem. After all this and finally getting a working system, I got an update notice for 2.8pre. May swap the pins back to see if the update does anything when I have some time.
I wouldn't expect the update to have any effect. I am pretty sure nothing much has changed there.
homing.c hasn't changed since february last year: github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commits/mas.../emc/motion/homing.c
Can you show us the before and after versions of the code, perhaps it is in some way explicable?
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08 Jun 2018 21:58 #112029
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic 2.8pre gantry racking
I suspect your changes confirmed a wiring error on your part. I had a similar problem as yours once and eventually I worked out that I had swapped the stepper driver wiring around so X1 was using X2's homing switch and vice versa.
It did my head in trying to debug this fault. Eventually I slowed the homing velocities to a crawl and got a clue about what was wrong.
It did my head in trying to debug this fault. Eventually I slowed the homing velocities to a crawl and got a clue about what was wrong.
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09 Jun 2018 00:56 #112034
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@rodw: Bingo, that makes perfect sense !! I must have the X0 and X1 switches flipped. Agghh, that explains why swapping the parallel port pins in the hal file for the home switches got it sorted out after I put them on unique pins.
I built this bot 9 years ago, and haven't used it for the last couple of years. Have a need now, and added in the home switches with the software upgrade this week. Guess I have the motors marked wrong and it never mattered which joint was which on the X axis until I added in the home switches. Sigh.
Thanks again,
Rick
I built this bot 9 years ago, and haven't used it for the last couple of years. Have a need now, and added in the home switches with the software upgrade this week. Guess I have the motors marked wrong and it never mattered which joint was which on the X axis until I added in the home switches. Sigh.
Thanks again,
Rick
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