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Mike_Eitel
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25 Dec 2018 15:19 #122870 by Mike_Eitel

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Hi

I did an update yesterday and now I have no glue how to get my system running again.
It was running perfect before.

Such kind of errors I saw never.
4 axes stepper with Master / 7i76e / Gmoccapy / ncam

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Any idea where to start ?

THX in advance
Mike

P.S.
Will try to send config, having trouble with file size....

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25 Dec 2018 15:25 #122871 by Mike_Eitel

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And here my config.

I deleted everything inside ncam otherwise it was over 4MB.

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Mike

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25 Dec 2018 16:27 - 25 Dec 2018 16:32 #122873 by dgarrett

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display.hal:78: Pin 'motion.spindle-speed-out-rps-abs' does not exist
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LINUXCNCVERSION: 2.8.0-pre1-4081-g48726d6ea

Recent commits to master branch add multispindle
capability and name changes for spindle hal pins.

The update_ini script fixes most name-change
occurrences and updates [EMC]VERSION to 1.1.

However, your display.hal file is probably not detected
since it is sourced within the postgui_call_list.hal
and not handled by the update_ini script:

$ grep source *.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source analog_in.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source estop_and_enable.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:#source home_limit.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source display.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source mpg.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source tool.hal
postgui_call_list.hal:source spindle_vfd.hal

LinuxCNC stopped on first error (display.hal) but you
have additional name change errors in spindle_vfd.hal.

You will need to update all hal pin names normally
fixed by update ini as illustrated by:

$ grep spindle `which update_ini`
  'motion.spindle-brake'                  : 'spindle.0.brake',
  'motion.spindle-forward'                : 'spindle.0.forward',
  'motion.spindle-index-enable'           : 'spindle.0.index-enable',
  'motion.spindle-inhibit'                : 'spindle.0.inhibit',
  'motion.spindle-on'                     : 'spindle.0.on',
  'motion.spindle-reverse'                : 'spindle.0.reverse',
  'motion.spindle-revs'                   : 'spindle.0.revs',
  'motion.spindle-speed-in'               : 'spindle.0.speed-in',
  'motion.spindle-speed-out'              : 'spindle.0.speed-out',
  'motion.spindle-speed-out-abs'          : 'spindle.0.speed-out-abs',
  'motion.spindle-speed-out-rps'          : 'spindle.0.speed-out-rps',
  'motion.spindle-speed-out-rps-abs'      : 'spindle.0.speed-out-rps-abs',
  'motion.spindle-orient-angle'           : 'spindle.0.orient-angle', 
  'motion.spindle-orient-mode'            : 'spindle.0.orient-mode',
  'motion.spindle-orient'                 : 'spindle.0.orient',
  'motion.spindle-is-oriented'            : 'spindle.0.is-oriented',
  'motion.spindle-orient-fault'           : 'spindle.0.orient-fault',
  'motion.spindle-locked'                 : 'spindle.0.locked',
  'motion.spindle-at-speed'               : 'spindle.0.at-speed',
  'halui.spindle.brake-is-on'             : 'halui.spindle.0.brake-is-on',
  'halui.spindle.brake-off'               : 'halui.spindle.0.brake-off',
  'halui.spindle.brake-on'                : 'halui.spindle.0.brake-on',
  'halui.spindle.decrease'                : 'halui.spindle.0.decrease',
  'halui.spindle.forward'                 : 'halui.spindle.0.forward',
  'halui.spindle.increase'                : 'halui.spindle.0.increase',
  'halui.spindle.is-on'                   : 'halui.spindle.0.is-on',
  'halui.spindle.reverse'                 : 'halui.spindle.0.reverse',
  'halui.spindle.runs-backward'           : 'halui.spindle.0.runs-backward',
  'halui.spindle.runs-forward'            : 'halui.spindle.0.runs-forward',
  'halui.spindle.start'                   : 'halui.spindle.0.start',
  'halui.spindle.stop'                    : 'halui.spindle.0.stop',
  'halui.spindle.override.count-enable'   : 'halui.spindle.0.override.count-enable',
  'halui.spindle.override.counts'         : 'halui.spindle.0.override.counts',
  'halui.spindle.override.decrease'       : 'halui.spindle.0.override.decrease',
  'halui.spindle.override.direct-value'   : 'halui.spindle.0.override.direct-value',
  'halui.spindle.override.increase'       : 'halui.spindle.0.override.increase',
  'halui.spindle.override.scale'          : 'halui.spindle.0.override.scale',
  'halui.spindle.override.value'          : 'halui.spindle.0.override.value'

See also: man pages for halui,motion:

linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/man/man9/motion.9.html
linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/man/man1/halui.1.html

Candidates in your hal files:

MeBigCNC3 $ grep -E motion\.spindle\|halui\.spindle *hal
display.hal:net 	t4 		motion.spindle-speed-out-rps-abs	=>	toolpara.in-spin-rps
spindle_vfd.hal:net	auto_spindle_enable	<= 	motion.spindle-on
spindle_vfd.hal:net	auto_spindle_dir	<= 	motion.spindle-reverse
spindle_vfd.hal:net	spindle_auto-ra	spind-scaler.in1	<=	motion.spindle-speed-out-abs
spindle_vfd.hal:net	spindle-rps				=>	motion.spindle-speed-in
spindle_vfd.hal:net 	spindle-revs	motion.spindle-revs		<=	hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.position
spindle_vfd.hal:net 	spindle-ind-ena	motion.spindle-index-enable	<=>	hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.index-enable
spindle_vfd.hal:#net	spindle-at-speed	=>	motion.spindle-at-speed

Last edit: 25 Dec 2018 16:32 by dgarrett. Reason: show candidates

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25 Dec 2018 16:54 #122879 by Mike_Eitel

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Big THX

That makes sense to me.
I remember now having read about spindle instantiateing.
Hope this is nit also in gmoccapy and ncam..
Will give it a test, as soon my govern allows it ;-)

Happy Christmas
Mike

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25 Dec 2018 18:32 #122884 by Mike_Eitel

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Hi dgarrett
I had half an hour an now my machine is up again!
SUPER

Mike

P. S. Debugging became very easy and fast since I installed on ssd.
One try and error cycle is far below one minute since.

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29 Dec 2018 14:37 #123076 by andypugh

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dgarrett wrote:
However, your display.hal file is probably not detected
since it is sourced within the postgui_call_list.hal
and not handled by the update_ini script:

I should fix that.

The following user(s) said Thank You: Mike_Eitel

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29 Dec 2018 16:02 #123098 by Mike_Eitel

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I'm aware that I use a bit complicated way to structure my hal files.
Two pass was not working as I expected so I use this form.

I would like the idea two have:
All hw dependent i/o definitions in one hal file
(Inputs are OK, but I was not able to have that with outputs too)
All according loadrt and addf on top of each according hal, but that did not work.
(That's why I stuffed them all in one file)

P. S.
I know that I'm a bit old fashioned as I like clear declaration on one place and also program parts structured to functionalities.

Mike

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29 Dec 2018 16:20 #123100 by pl7i92

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hi i did found me in the same position on updating systems to debian9 and 2.7.14

CAN Someone Please EDIT the Main linuxcnc.org PAGE to tell this and the Download Pages of the NEW OS

that woudt help in first hand
What to expect

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29 Dec 2018 17:37 #123105 by PCW

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Mike_Eitel wrote:
I'm aware that I use a bit complicated way to structure my hal files.
Two pass was not working as I expected so I use this form.

I would like the idea two have:
All hw dependent i/o definitions in one hal file
(Inputs are OK, but I was not able to have that with outputs too)
All according loadrt and addf on top of each according hal, but that did not work.
(That's why I stuffed them all in one file)

P. S.
I know that I'm a bit old fashioned as I like clear declaration on one place and also program parts structured to functionalities.

Mike

I think its a really good idea to keep hardware specific parts (pins and parameters)
of the hal file located in one hardware specific file, (that links to signals with standard names)
so the basic structural parts of the hal file are hardware independent.

What was the issue with outputs?

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29 Dec 2018 18:02 #123106 by Mike_Eitel

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Hi Peter

If you look in my config (included here earlier) you can find that in 7i76e.hal I commented out the output declarations. And have them in the according hal uncommented.

I'm not sure anymore, either it simply did not work, or stopped with error on startup. I had both variants in the process of finding my way of writing hal.

You can easy test the output part by using my directory (yes you have to correct 4 or 5 spindle.0. replacements in that version) MeBigCNC3. Ini

Mike

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