Which is best Step/Dir or Analoge for Dual feedback setup ?

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02 May 2022 12:12 #241844 by yrsiddhapura
Greetings,

Hello right now i am working on a boring mill and due to its size and required accuracy(Under 15 micron) i am willing to setup dual feedback system with linuxcnc. As newbie in linuxcnc i have following confusion.

-> Which command mode is will perform better in dual feedback setup -+10V analogue or step/dir for 3d contour.
-> From where i should start and how to setup

for better performance changing all ball screw, Installing new linear scale, Machine required 11nm motor but installing 14nm motors, Motor drive have encoder output.

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02 May 2022 13:34 #241849 by andypugh
I don't think it matters.

If you are using dual feedback then you would probably (though not necessarily) use a velocity-mode stepgen such that the required axis movement speed depends in the step rate.

And, with an analogue system, the axis velocity would depend on the voltage command.

So, I would probably recommend deciding on the basis of available hardware.
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05 May 2022 04:06 #242018 by yrsiddhapura
Thank you for this valuable tip.

And it is possible to setup X,Y,Z,W and B axis without changing kinematics ?

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05 May 2022 04:12 #242019 by Henk
You can set up all those axes using the standard kinematics (trivkins)

What motors, drives and type of feedback did you have in mind?

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05 May 2022 12:16 #242031 by yrsiddhapura
Well i was thinking to use Invt make 3kw servo motor on all axis in velocity mode as andypugh mentioned.

For position displacement feedback 5 micron linear encoder on all linear axis and rotary encoder on rotary table and

For speed(Velocity) feedback motor encoder output from motor drive.

And a I5 minipc with Mesa FPGA board for Linuxcnc Interface

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05 May 2022 21:40 #242074 by Henk
That sounds ok to me, bit I would go for 1um scales. I have used both, and there is a noticeable improvement.

I don't think dual feedback is necessary tough. Use the scale feedback for position to linuxcnc and let the drive sort out its own velocity loop

The software can only do so much though, and there is no substitute for a good mechanical system.

And make sure that the motors are big enough...
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06 May 2022 05:48 #242102 by yrsiddhapura
For motor we are going same way it requires 11nm but we are installing 14nm

Cause of dual feedback is size of machine saddle weight and it's boxway and have to made some 3D contour

 

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