temporary work offsets. external offset or something else?

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05 Dec 2023 21:24 - 05 Dec 2023 21:40 #287312 by lunada

Normal workflow would be to go where you want to start your job and just touch off each axis. 
With my plasma machine I had a laser pointer (offset from the torch) which I pointed to where I wanted to start and press one button that moved the cutting tool to the laser point and set the g54 offsets for X & Y. I also had another button called Zero XY which made the current tool position X0Y0. That sounds more like what you want rather than mucking about with entering coordinates.
while that does sound handy for some stuff, what i want is to enter coordinates, just like our old controller, mainly to prevent incidents. Our operator is very new. The less changes the better right now until he gets more comfortable. I may add your button as a secondary thing though. 

Last edit: 05 Dec 2023 21:40 by lunada.

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05 Dec 2023 21:38 #287313 by lunada

Your pyvcp boxes should set a halpin value, say 'value_x' and 'value_y' you could then have another pyvcp button that executes an MDI command like this:

G10 L2 P0 X#<_hal[pyvcp.value_x]> Y#<_hal[pyvcp.value_y]>

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For more information on reading hal pins from gcode see section 4 here:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/gcode/overvie...:overview-parameters

Thanks! That's helpful. i'll do some reading and give it a shot. Sounds like what i'm looking for. I may try to add a button like Rodw mentioned as well. 

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05 Dec 2023 22:25 #287318 by lunada
well crap, i didnt realize that there wasn't a numerical input box for pyvcp. I swore i had seen one before.

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05 Dec 2023 22:49 #287322 by lunada
hmm it doesnt look like g52 is going to work either. i'm trying to add or subtract from the current work offset, not just tell the machine where it is. so for example, if the corner of the spoilboard is x0y0z0 but the part is 3" from there in x and y, i just want to offset the work offset by 3" instead of changing it, if that makes sense. That way the machine doesnt need to be in any specific position when the temporary offset is entered, it just shifts the whole program by that amount (probably like the external offset would, except i dont want the machine to move until the program starts)

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06 Dec 2023 07:52 #287337 by Aciera

well crap, i didnt realize that there wasn't a numerical input box for pyvcp. I swore i had seen one before.

Yes, there is the 'spinbox' widget, but that might be a bit of a pain since you have to use the the up/down arrows to adjust the value as it does not take values using the keyboard:

GladeVCP does have an entry widget but you would have to change to a gui that uses gtk.

hmm it doesnt look like g52 is going to work either. i'm trying to add or subtract from the current work offset, not just tell the machine where it is. so for example, if the corner of the spoilboard is x0y0z0 but the part is 3" from there in x and y, i just want to offset the work offset by 3" instead of changing it, if that makes sense.

Sounds exactly what G52 does, add an offset to the current work offset. This screen shot shows the effect of 'G52 x80' on top of an existing G54 offset. :

 
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06 Dec 2023 10:09 #287344 by Aciera
Here is an alternative that calls up a popup window for the operator to input the X,Y,Z offset values which get stored oin motion.analog-in-(00, 01, 02) pins. In a second step these values are then used to set the current work offset. You would probably want to create a custom pyvcp button that calls 'M401' as an MDI command.

 

This is an adaptation of an older tcl remap I found on the forum. It works but it may need a bit of polishing as I'm not really familiar with tcl. This could probably be done in python as well.

This is the content of 'M141' in the 'mcodes' folder:
#!/usr/bin/tclsh

# EDIT here to set ::the_pin_name as required:
set ::the_pin_name_1   motion.analog-in-00
set ::default_value_x  0
set ::the_pin_name_2   motion.analog-in-01
set ::default_value_y  0
set ::the_pin_name_3   motion.analog-in-02
set ::default_value_z  0

# Note: This file must:
#    have execute permissions (chmod +x this_file_name)
#    be located according to rules for user M codes
#    exist before starting LinuxCNC

#------------------------------------------------------------------
set ::prog [file tail $::argv0]
set ::value_x $::default_value_x
set ::value_y $::default_value_y
set ::value_z $::default_value_z

package require Hal
package require Tk

proc go {} {
  if [catch {
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_1 before: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_1]"
    hal setp $::the_pin_name_1 $::value_x
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_1  after: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_1]"
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_2 before: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_2]"
    hal setp $::the_pin_name_2 $::value_y
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_2  after: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_2]"
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_3 before: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_3]"
    hal setp $::the_pin_name_3 $::value_z
    puts "$::prog:$::the_pin_name_3  after: [hal getp $::the_pin_name_3]"
    hal setp $::the_pin_name_3 $::value_z
  } msg ] {
    set ::value_x "FIXME"
    set ::value_y "FIXME"
    set ::value_z "FIXME"
    popup "ERROR\n\n$msg"
  } else {
    exit 0
  }
}
proc abort {} {
  popup "Aborting Gcode program"
  exit 1
}
proc err_exit {msg} {
  popup $msg
  exit 1
}
proc popup {msg} {
  puts stderr "$::prog: $msg"
  tk_messageBox \
    -title "$::prog Set Offset" \
    -type ok \
    -message "$msg"
}

wm title . "$::prog Set Offset"
wm protocol . WM_DELETE_WINDOW  {puts "$::prog: window close disallowed"}
pack [label .l1 -text "X:"] -side left
pack [entry .e1 -textvar ::value_x] -side left
pack [label .l2 -text "Y:"] -side left
pack [entry .e2 -textvar ::value_y] -side left
pack [label .l3 -text "Z:"] -side left
pack [entry .e3 -textvar ::value_z] -side left
bind .e1 <Return> go
pack [button .b -text Go -command go] -side left
pack [button .a -text Abort -command abort] -side left

This is the '401remap.ngc' in the 'remap_subs' that would be called by the custom button:
o<401remap> sub
 ; open user input popup
 M141
 ; update motion.analog pins
 M66 E0 L0
 ; set current work offset
 G10 L2 P0 X#<_hal[motion.analog-in-00]> Y#<_hal[motion.analog-in-01]> Z#<_hal[motion.analog-in-02]>
o<401remap> endsub

The [RS274NGC] section of your ini file would need to include:
[RS274NGC]
    USER_M_PATH = ./mcodes
SUBROUTINE_PATH = ./remap_subs
   HAL_PIN_VARS = 1
          REMAP = M401  modalgroup=10  ngc=401remap

 
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06 Dec 2023 14:59 #287358 by andypugh
For this I would use a GladeVCP box and an action widget.

If you look here at section 7.5 and 7.6:
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gui/gladev...mand_on_button_press

You can create an on-screen button that runs an MDI command, and it can use values direct from the screen, no need to export to G-code analogue inputs.
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06 Dec 2023 15:43 - 07 Dec 2023 07:03 #287359 by Aciera
Ah thanks, I wasn't aware that we could use GladeVCP panels with the axis gui.

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Just to give you one more option:
Here is a custom mcode using python that works on it's own. Calling it will open a popup for XYZ values (includes value checking) and a click on the 'Set' button will set the current work offsets to the entered values, so there are no halpins involved.
#!/usr/bin/python3
import linuxcnc
import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import Tk, X, BOTH, LEFT
from tkinter import ttk
from tkinter.ttk import Frame, Label, Entry, Button

# add/remove the entries needed
entry_list = ('X','Y','Z')

class SimpleDialog(Frame):

    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__()
        self.initUI()

    def initUI(self):
        self.master.title("Enter Offset    ")
        self.pack(fill=BOTH, expand=True)
        self.entries = []
        for entry in entry_list:
            self.e = self.createEntry(entry)
            self.entries.append(self.e)
        self.label_error = ttk.Label(self, foreground='red')
        self.label_error.pack(fill=X, padx=5, expand=True)
        frame_last = Frame(self)
        frame_last.pack(fill=X)
        self.btn = Button(frame_last, text="Set", command=self.onSubmit)
        self.btn.pack(padx=5, pady=5)
        self.btn.bind('<Return>', self.onSubmit)

    def createEntry(self, entry):
        frame = Frame(self)
        frame.pack(fill=X)
        lbl = Label(frame, text=entry+":", width=4)
        lbl.pack(side=LEFT, padx=5, pady=2)
        self.vcmd = (self.register(self.validate), '%P', '%W')
        self.entry = Entry(frame)
        self.entry.insert(0, '0')
        self.entry.config(validate='focusout', validatecommand=self.vcmd)
        self.entry.pack(fill=X, padx=5, expand=True)
        return self.entry

    def show_message(self, w, error='', color='black'):
        color_state = []
        self.label_error['text'] = error
        for i in range(len(self.entries)):
            if w == str(self.entries[i]):
                self.entries[i]['foreground'] = color
            color_state.append(str(self.entries[i].cget('foreground')))
        if 'red' in color_state:    
            self.btn.configure(state="disabled")
        else:
            self.btn.configure(state="normal")

    def validate(self, value, w):
        try:
            result = float(value)
            self.show_message(w)
            return True
        except ValueError:
            self.show_message(w, 'Invalid entry.', 'red')
            return False

    def onSubmit(self, *args):
        value1 = float(self.entries[0].get())
        value2 = float(self.entries[1].get())
        value3 = float(self.entries[2].get())
        # Get rid of the error message if the user clicks the
        # close icon instead of the submit button
        try:
            root.destroy()
        except:
            pass
        c = linuxcnc.command()
        c.mdi('G10 L2 P0 X%f Y%f Z%f ' % (value1, value2, value3))
        self.quit()

# This part triggers the dialog
root = Tk()
# the more entries in the list the longer the window needs to be
l = len(entry_list)
root.geometry("250x" + str(l*22+60) + "+300+300")
app = SimpleDialog()
root.mainloop()
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12 Dec 2023 21:25 #287978 by lunada
thank you guys. it's been a busy couple weeks but i'm going to attempt it soon and i'll report back if i get it working

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