Retrofiting an old big milling machine

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5 years 9 months ago #195067 by OT-CNC

@OT-CNC which was your moglice supplier? What is the price?
I have not found a moglice supplier yet.


In the US, I get it from Devitt.
It's a German product if I recall correctly. Diamant polymer in Germany or maybe others in Europe sell it??
You'll have to check with them on cost.

Before you go that route inspect your screws carefully. Stone and polish any high spots/ nicks on the od and threads. When you cast the material it basically locks in. Any irregular high spot will bind during lapping. The wax layer is critical. It controls to some extent how much play the nut will have prior to lapping and allows you to brake it free. If you over apply, you have play, under apply and the nut is very difficult to brake free. If you need more details, I can dig into it deeper...

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5 years 9 months ago #195071 by andypugh
www.diamant-polymer.de/en/products/moglice/

Actual suppliers seem more elusive. Perhaps they only sell direct?

A possible source in the UK seems to be
www.pesukltd.com/products/industrial_pro...chine_tool_industry/

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5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #195091 by vre
I have contacted diamand polymer and there is a communication problem.
I asked them about their products they answered me after 2 weeks with a generic mail
and after that i asked them many times for EU moglice supplier without any response.
Seems more easy to buy moglice in US than EU.

Ballscrews for X/Y 32 or 25mm are cheap but 65mm for Z is expensive.
The brushed DC motor that have now is 100V 26A 1000rpm moves up/down Z axis
without problem but i have big servomotors > 3kw so motor is not problem for Z.
The question for Z axis is the backlash if keep existing leadscrew the weight
of table theoretically eliminate backlash automatically..
Exists any use case that backlash can appear on Z axis with leadscrew ?
If i can hold Z axis leadscrew then X/Y is ok to replace leadscrews with ballscrews.
Last edit: 5 years 9 months ago by vre.

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5 years 9 months ago #195098 by andypugh

vre wrote: Exists any use case that backlash can appear on Z axis with leadscrew ?


If you were horizontal boring, possibly.

Otherwise, I would say not in this case.

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5 years 3 months ago - 5 years 3 months ago #213747 by vre
Before make full retrofit i want to retrofit it as is mechanically...
Because must use that machine for some machining of some parts
(adapters servomotors motor plates etc)..
In that machine each axis moves separately from the same dc motor via electromagnet gear engaging(3 electromagnets)
The dc motor driver that moves all axes (X-Y-Z)  accepts pwm and each axis has linear scale that outputs AB incremental quadrature signals(i have replaced linear scales with new ones).
I have a mesa 7i80hd with 4 axis analog servo daughter card.
Some examples how to do the linuxcnc configs ?
I don't want 2 axes the same time moving no 2-3 axis interpolation
just moving 1 axis each time.
How i will make the selection which electromagnet will be engaged ?
For example if i have code G0 X100 how the electromagnet for X axis will enabled
of if i have code G0 Y200 how the electromagnet for Y axis will enabled and disabled the other 2 ?
Last edit: 5 years 3 months ago by vre.

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