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13 Sep 2022 20:06 #251841
by new2linux
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Todd, thanks. All looks ok with the ,ini file, it was saved at 2.5. The only line I changed was the MAX_Acceleration. The attached pic is best today for the "Y" axes, I will use the last setting for the x axes that are posted. The "y" axes is not finished yet.
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13 Sep 2022 20:31 #251842
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Have you tried higher P settings for the Y? to try to improve the initial error spike?
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14 Sep 2022 11:52 #251889
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Todd, many thanks! I will try more "P" & look for spike to improve on "Y". There is no reason to think that 1000 is the max limit for P? I have an appointment this morning, try to be back after lunch, not shore how much will get done today.
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14 Sep 2022 13:36 #251898
by Todd Zuercher
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The P value is a double precision float, there is no conceivable practical maximum (there is a theoretical maximum but that is a truly silly number).
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14 Sep 2022 17:58 - 14 Sep 2022 18:08 #251913
by new2linux
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Todd, thanks! The attached trace best so far today, "P" did not want to do much to lower spike, until way hi value. The units are ch 6 & 9 = 200m/div; ch 8 & 10 = 500m/div; ch 7 (pid.x.error) is 200u/div. This has got to be close, open to suggestions!
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Edit: I am using the same exact area of the "y" axes ways, so back up (the 2 or 3") after every trace test, and start approx the same place, to reduce any chance of (ways/gib/friction) introducing any variable. It appeared that close to colum of the mill where the "y" axes travel is tight may be an issue.
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Edit: I am using the same exact area of the "y" axes ways, so back up (the 2 or 3") after every trace test, and start approx the same place, to reduce any chance of (ways/gib/friction) introducing any variable. It appeared that close to colum of the mill where the "y" axes travel is tight may be an issue.
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14 Sep 2022 18:06 #251915
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A little too much FF1 and FF2. Try FF1=2.6 and FF2=0.3.
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14 Sep 2022 18:13 #251916
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Todd, thanks! Attached is the trace with suggested changes, looks good!
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14 Sep 2022 18:41 #251920
by Todd Zuercher
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Still a little much, try FF1=2.5 and FF2=0.25.
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14 Sep 2022 19:09 - 15 Sep 2022 12:10 #251923
by new2linux
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Todd, thanks! Attached are the trace you suggested, including a trace of just 1 change at a time, for reference. After updating the 1st suggestion that made the big difference, I tried several small changes with all of the variables, 1 at a time & I could not better the settings you suggested.
This group of traces I picked the best of 2 or 3 traces with same settings to be shore its not a 1 off, got to be confident. This is very close, are we going to try a higher .hal (MAX_Acceleration) setting, currently 2.5.
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Edit: I have set "Y" axes to this setting:P=1978; D=19.358; FF1=2.5; FF2=.25; & DeadBand=.000053, this looks to be the best yet.
This group of traces I picked the best of 2 or 3 traces with same settings to be shore its not a 1 off, got to be confident. This is very close, are we going to try a higher .hal (MAX_Acceleration) setting, currently 2.5.
Many thanks!
Edit: I have set "Y" axes to this setting:P=1978; D=19.358; FF1=2.5; FF2=.25; & DeadBand=.000053, this looks to be the best yet.
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15 Sep 2022 14:58 #252000
by new2linux
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Todd, many thanks for all the help, you set the standard of how to "pay it forward" and a true gentleman.
Attached are the final traces for "X"&"Y" axes, I plan to save this file (the file name I used to setup) in the HAL Scope configuration file as " autosave.halscope"? Is this the correct file name, after reviewing the .ini file, that that values set in the "servo axes calibration screen" have been saved for "x" & "y" axes in the .ini file.
Is there anything I should be thinking about?
Many thanks!
Attached are the final traces for "X"&"Y" axes, I plan to save this file (the file name I used to setup) in the HAL Scope configuration file as " autosave.halscope"? Is this the correct file name, after reviewing the .ini file, that that values set in the "servo axes calibration screen" have been saved for "x" & "y" axes in the .ini file.
Is there anything I should be thinking about?
Many thanks!
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