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Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
3 years 2 months ago #278748
by pawel77
Replied by pawel77 on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Just looking at the spec sheet do I read correctly that you feed them 110v AC and they send out as DC for the motors?
yes.
regarding how to power the drive disscuss with them directly, they will advice you. send them motor plate too.
Do you know how much they cost?
do not remember, depending on the version but it was competitive price.
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3 years 1 month ago #280167
by Walkahz
Replied by Walkahz on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Still Chipping Away. I investigated the drives Pawel has suggested and they could work. Cost isnt crazy but it is similar pricing to 3 brand new lichuan AC servos with drives which is the way i am leaning at this point.
Have got my touch screen mounted to my existing panel (some slight mods required) The calibration is way out for the touch so would love some guidance on how to best correct this.
Electronics box is almost completely stripped. Due to the smaller footprint of modern drives and equipment i am downsizing this by cutting it in half and i will weld the end back on. The other photos shows the pile of wiring and contactors which has been removed. Some of this will be repurposed in the refit but will end up with a lot of surplus.
My Mesa Cards arrived yesterday so i look forwards to getting these connected to the PC and Linux CNC. I didnt realise but do the 7I96S and 7i84D require an External 5v supply? What is the best way to obtain this through a power supply?
This forum seems overly difficult to attach images. i keep running into max file size issues. What is the limit 1.6mb per post or per image?
Have got my touch screen mounted to my existing panel (some slight mods required) The calibration is way out for the touch so would love some guidance on how to best correct this.
Electronics box is almost completely stripped. Due to the smaller footprint of modern drives and equipment i am downsizing this by cutting it in half and i will weld the end back on. The other photos shows the pile of wiring and contactors which has been removed. Some of this will be repurposed in the refit but will end up with a lot of surplus.
My Mesa Cards arrived yesterday so i look forwards to getting these connected to the PC and Linux CNC. I didnt realise but do the 7I96S and 7i84D require an External 5v supply? What is the best way to obtain this through a power supply?
This forum seems overly difficult to attach images. i keep running into max file size issues. What is the limit 1.6mb per post or per image?
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3 years 2 days ago #284172
by Walkahz
Replied by Walkahz on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Still moving along with my refit. Having issues getting Linux CNC started and connected to my mesa cards but haven't tried in a while so will need to have another go with fresh eyes. Does Linux CNC start without a card connected? I have done a basic configuration to get me started but it won't run.
Control box is coming along, have got most wires I no longer need stripped and I am starting to put it together again. Have fitted up my 3 vfd's and 24v 12v power supplies.
240v power cable fitted and running through breakers and into my various distribution blocks. Having so much cable and componentry I have already removed is useful as there is plenty there for the rebuild.
Control box is coming along, have got most wires I no longer need stripped and I am starting to put it together again. Have fitted up my 3 vfd's and 24v 12v power supplies.
240v power cable fitted and running through breakers and into my various distribution blocks. Having so much cable and componentry I have already removed is useful as there is plenty there for the rebuild.
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2 years 9 months ago #291333
by Walkahz
Replied by Walkahz on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Long time no post. Still been chipping away at the deckel but time has not been my friend.
have finally got Linux CNC up and running and connecting to my mesa card took lots of google for a newbie like me to find the ins and outs of Linux.
Have got temporary power hooked up to power supplies and vfd's for testing purposes.
Working through reverse engineering the button IO on the original deckel control panel so I can use these as hard buttons.
Gear position sensors wired in as inputs. Still need to wire in the gear change motors and do the HAL not looking forwards to this.
I have purchased X and Y axis servos and done a test to make them spin controlled by LCNC. Z servo to wait until these 2 are fitted and working (as well to save up some more funds)
I am having a problem controlling my fwd and reverse switching on my VFD however.
The output switching on the 7i96 seems to be working when checked with multimeter however VFD will run if output is active or inactive until DCOM wire is removed. Bridging the wires across the terminals on the VFD makes the functions work as expected. Any ideas? Or will this need to run through an external relay?
have finally got Linux CNC up and running and connecting to my mesa card took lots of google for a newbie like me to find the ins and outs of Linux.
Have got temporary power hooked up to power supplies and vfd's for testing purposes.
Working through reverse engineering the button IO on the original deckel control panel so I can use these as hard buttons.
Gear position sensors wired in as inputs. Still need to wire in the gear change motors and do the HAL not looking forwards to this.
I have purchased X and Y axis servos and done a test to make them spin controlled by LCNC. Z servo to wait until these 2 are fitted and working (as well to save up some more funds)
I am having a problem controlling my fwd and reverse switching on my VFD however.
The output switching on the 7i96 seems to be working when checked with multimeter however VFD will run if output is active or inactive until DCOM wire is removed. Bridging the wires across the terminals on the VFD makes the functions work as expected. Any ideas? Or will this need to run through an external relay?
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2 years 7 months ago #296383
by Walkahz
Replied by Walkahz on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Got the fwd reverse switching working for the VFD. Ended up running through an external relay triggered by the 7i96.Need to read up more on how outputs are used on the 7i84 with only 1 wire unlike the 7i96 with a common side.In the meantime my 8m pulleys arrived from china for my X and y axis. Got my X axis finally moving. Probably the first movement this machine has made under its own power in 10 years!!! Photo of the servo on its mount before fitting.
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2 years 1 month ago #311022
by Walkahz
Replied by Walkahz on topic Deckel FP4 ATC Retrofit
Didn't realise how long it has been since posting here.
A lot of things have happened to the mill and on Friday I finally made its first very slow chips in a long long time.
Z axis motor took me some figuring out as the servo drive was not as basic as the X and Y motors.
Have wired up the hydraulic pump and got the tool clamp functional, have kept this running analogue style with just switches and relays for now. Can change to PC control down the track.
Have a tool setter and probe fitted although the probe was DOA from AliExpress so had to arrange another.
Still working on linking my physical buttons on my control panel as well as the biggest task of getting the gearbox running which I have had a few goes at now. I am finally getting some progress on a classic ladder solution for this so hopefully not too far off now.
A lot of things have happened to the mill and on Friday I finally made its first very slow chips in a long long time.
Z axis motor took me some figuring out as the servo drive was not as basic as the X and Y motors.
Have wired up the hydraulic pump and got the tool clamp functional, have kept this running analogue style with just switches and relays for now. Can change to PC control down the track.
Have a tool setter and probe fitted although the probe was DOA from AliExpress so had to arrange another.
Still working on linking my physical buttons on my control panel as well as the biggest task of getting the gearbox running which I have had a few goes at now. I am finally getting some progress on a classic ladder solution for this so hopefully not too far off now.
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