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19 Dec 2013 01:12 #41776 by vikingsraven
HI me again,
ok thanks to the guys on my other post , the machine is running ( GravographXV86) in the right direction.
set it up and jogged x,y,z into position and zero'd it.
run the linuxcnc logo and bingo, it started the spindle plunged the cutter down and started to engrave, the only problem now is the z axis doesn't lift! so it just cut all the transfer points into the wood ( sorry if the terminology is wrong!).

I dont get whats not happening, it works fine on the Step config ( when i untick the brake) and in the software i can jog it fine.
Anyone have any pointers on where to look please?
thanks

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19 Dec 2013 01:30 #41777 by BigJohnT
My guess is your Z stepper stalled, do a stepper test on it from the Getting Started Manual.

www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Steppe...ostics.html#_testing

JT

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19 Dec 2013 01:32 #41778 by vikingsraven
cheers jt , had spotted that earlier today wasnt sure if i should use it. ill go try it now.
Im maybe gone some time!

dont have internet down the shed( yet!) , so ill be back and forth!

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19 Dec 2013 03:09 #41790 by vikingsraven
Ran the test and it worked.

Z 1.0 moved the cutting tool up and Z0.5 moved it down , this was following what the screen was showing.

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19 Dec 2013 06:02 #41797 by JoeHildreth
You ran that test from the MDI?

You need to take a look and see if G1 is active. If it is, the feed rate may be slow enough that your stepper is handling it. Perhaps you should run

G0 Z1
G0 Z-1

Or whatever distance is appropraite for your machine. It could be the rapid rate is too high for the motor. I had a similar problem when I first started out. My Rapids (G0) were too fast and my motor would stall out.

Just a thought.

Joe

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19 Dec 2013 07:35 #41800 by BigJohnT
The link I gave him was to this test in the manual.
( test program to see if Z axis loses position )
( msg, test 1 of Z axis configuration )
G20 #1000=100 ( loop 100 times )
( this loop has delays after moves )
( tests acc and velocity settings )
o100 while [#1000]
G0 Z1.000
G4 P0.250
G0 Z0.500
G4 P0.250
#1000 = [#1000 - 1]
o100 endwhile
( msg, test 2 of Z axis configuration S to continue)
M1 (stop here)
#1000=100 ( loop 100 times )
( the next loop has no delays after moves )
( tests direction hold times on driver config and also max accel setting )
o101 while [#1000]
G0 Z1.000
G0 Z0.500
#1000 = [#1000 - 1]
o101 endwhile
( msg, Done...Z should be exactly .5" above table )
M2

I assume he ran this.

JT

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19 Dec 2013 10:33 #41806 by JoeHildreth
Ahhh.... I should have been more attentive.

Joe

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19 Dec 2013 12:11 #41811 by vikingsraven
Thanks for the the response joe anyway.
Jt got me to try the Z axis test code.
So I take it a G0 Z-1.0 would move it 1inch below the face.
I did video it operating I could post a link. Will this site allow dropbox links?

Dont thinks its anything silly like me using a Zed axis and the softwares using a Zee axis ;)

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19 Dec 2013 20:03 #41821 by BigJohnT
I don't know about dropbox or not.

At the end of the Z test was the Z axis in the correct place?

Run the Splash Code in the air and see if it runs ok, that might indicate some binding in the Z axis with the side loads of cutting.

JT

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19 Dec 2013 20:59 - 19 Dec 2013 21:00 #41826 by vikingsraven
z axis test

Cheers JT , tried that and still nothing.
heres the video .
Last edit: 19 Dec 2013 21:00 by vikingsraven.

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