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26 May 2018 05:20 #111139 by rusmannx
Mesa & Modbus was created by rusmannx
Hi everyone. I've been controlling my Huanyang VFD via modbus for a while, but I recently changed from a parallel port installation (C11 breakout board) to a Mesa 5i25+7i76. I've copied over the necessary bits from the old HAL files and I can hit the spindle forward/reverse buttons and get the VFD to click, but when I use the + to speed up or - to speed down I get nothing.

My guess is that the HAL pins I'm connected to from my old paraport config are pointing to the wrong pins for a Mesa config. Can someone tell me what I should be looking for? What pins do the + and - point to? I have the config files zipped up and available at the link below if taking a look would help. I've been messing with this for hours and can't seem to get it working.
www.dropbox.com/s/qbsv08p6lh051dk/russtuffMesa.zip?dl=0

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

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26 May 2018 06:04 #111140 by InMyDarkestHour
Replied by InMyDarkestHour on topic Mesa & Modbus
Just guessing is this line in custom_postgui.hal an issue

# SET SPINDLE AT SPEED INDICATOR TO TRUE IF WE CHOSE NO FEEDBACK
# DON'T USE THIS LINE IF USING MODBUS FOR RPM COMMANDS
sets spindle-at-speed true
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26 May 2018 06:10 - 26 May 2018 06:11 #111141 by rusmannx
Replied by rusmannx on topic Mesa & Modbus
Thank you for digging in. I've tried disabling that line during testing and it didn't make a difference. Funny, I wonder why I bothered to note I shouldn't use it when controlling via modus.
Last edit: 26 May 2018 06:11 by rusmannx.

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26 May 2018 06:16 #111142 by InMyDarkestHour
Replied by InMyDarkestHour on topic Mesa & Modbus
Does the spindle respond to MIDI commands?

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26 May 2018 06:19 #111143 by rusmannx
Replied by rusmannx on topic Mesa & Modbus
It does not.

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26 May 2018 08:50 #111144 by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Mesa & Modbus

I've tried disabling that line during testing and it didn't make a difference.


I think if you disable that line, you would need to uncomment this line
#net spindle-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed <= near.0.out

but I'm not sure its formatted correctly. I would have done it this way
net spindle-at-speed <= near.0.out
net spindle-at-speed  => motion.spindle-at-speed

My concern is that if the spindle is always at speed as per "that line", why would it ever attempt to change the speed?

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26 May 2018 13:16 - 26 May 2018 14:13 #111146 by rusmannx
Replied by rusmannx on topic Mesa & Modbus
I'll test this right away and update. Thank you.

Update: I've tried both suggestions but the VFD still isn't increasing Hz when asked. Rodw I replaced my line with your two and it does make better sense to me visually.

It's been a while since I created my original modbus config but I believe the reason I needed to enable spindle at speed is because I'm not currently reading spindle RPM. Having spindle at speed enabled allows a program to continue after an RPM when called, else the program pauses indefinitely awaiting the spindle to reach the requested speed. With my new Mesa Hardware I will have the ability to read a quadrature spindle signal and at that time I should no longer need spindle it speed.
Last edit: 26 May 2018 14:13 by rusmannx.

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26 May 2018 20:49 #111168 by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Mesa & Modbus
I'm not 100% up with Spindles because my machine is a plasma cutter but I think you will always need a spindle at speed because motion will not start without it.
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/core-components.html

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27 May 2018 04:07 #111178 by DanMN
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I have a fully functioning config for a Huangyang VFD working with a Mesa 7176e via Modbus - I'll share it tomorrow when I'm back in the evil laboratory.

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27 May 2018 14:13 #111188 by rusmannx
Replied by rusmannx on topic Mesa & Modbus
Right on. Thanks!

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