The finesse of classic ladder, getting started

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6 years 7 months ago #160348 by Becksvill
Replied by Becksvill on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
Hey John I need to also design a similar circuit to control my oiler on my cnc. In my case the oiler needs to be turned on every 3 mins or so I think for 20 seconds.

Just wondering if you can expand on that example. I am just coming to grips with classic ladder now

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6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #160353 by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
Not very intuitive with no description lol.

The first rung is a self reseting timer. A TP timer the output is on until the count is reached. As soon s the count is reached the first timer resets to 0 and starts to count down again. Might not be the best way but it's what I came up with 2017.

The second rung when the output bit goes from off to on that timer starts and the output from that goes to your pump.

JT
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6 years 6 months ago #162743 by Becksvill
Replied by Becksvill on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
Hey John

For some reason I am not getting notified about any replies hence the slow reply sorry.

I have been looking at the example classic ladder sim and running it and the ladder part all makes sense and is perfect for what I want. I just want to turn on a relay to power the lube pump on for 15 secs every 15 mins. and so you example is perfect.

What I am struggling with is how to actually connect the Hal pins to classic ladder. I have been reading up on HAL and watching videos especially Sam ("green machine videos") and ("estop video"). I think I understand those videos and can use Halcmd ok now. but I am still at a bit of a loss on how to connect the hal to classic ladder. It must be pretty simple lol. But the manual doesn't say anything in the examples that I could see. I think it must be so simple that they just seem to assume that people will have no trouble.

I am going to do some testing now and hopefully I work it out if so I will post back here.

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6 years 6 months ago #162752 by Mike_Eitel
Replied by Mike_Eitel on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
In this old #130396 is a tar.
Inside of this complete project you can find a. hal that transfers signals between CL and hal pins.
Mike

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6 years 6 months ago #162796 by Becksvill
Replied by Becksvill on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
thanks mike.

have you ever retrofitted a vmc toolchanger? I am looking for examples to get me started

I think i have started down the path. I can connect hal pins to classic ladder now and can change classic ladder stuff which was my first hold up. But now I have to decide how my logic will work

regards

Andrew

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6 years 6 months ago #162851 by Mike_Eitel
Replied by Mike_Eitel on topic The finesse of classic ladder, getting started
Hi Andrew
No, i never did.
But i read here on the forum that quite a lot of others did.
I'm sure some can step in better than me.
Mike

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