First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
23 Apr 2018 19:02 - 24 Apr 2018 00:01 #109503
by BrendaEM
First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board was created by BrendaEM
I was looking for a parallel port optoisolator /optocoupler card, and found this one ebay.com for something like $20.
The (Photo below) card came in a few weeks, packet delivery from China.
The card came in an envelope protected fairly with few layers of bubble-wrap. Included with it were a 1 meter parallel cable, and a 2 page color instruction. There is a bit of inscrutable Chinese/English about the power supply, but I think I will get it sorted out. I suspect that it does require +5v to run. Oddly, I may power it from a modified USB cable : |
Without the DB25, the board measures 70mm x 90mm. The mounting holes are 60mm x 80mm, and will accept a 3mm screw.
The card has 12 outputs and 5 inputs, which appears to match LinuxCNC.
The screw terminals and DB-25 connector are unremarkable.
There appears to be 17 opto-isolators. I am not sure what the extras are for. I would rather the optos are socketed, rather than surface mounted as they are.
There are 2 Schmidt trigger chips, which appear for cleaning up the digital signals.
It may be a few weeks before I get a computer going to test it, but I will follow up on it here.
The (Photo below) card came in a few weeks, packet delivery from China.
The card came in an envelope protected fairly with few layers of bubble-wrap. Included with it were a 1 meter parallel cable, and a 2 page color instruction. There is a bit of inscrutable Chinese/English about the power supply, but I think I will get it sorted out. I suspect that it does require +5v to run. Oddly, I may power it from a modified USB cable : |
Without the DB25, the board measures 70mm x 90mm. The mounting holes are 60mm x 80mm, and will accept a 3mm screw.
The card has 12 outputs and 5 inputs, which appears to match LinuxCNC.
The screw terminals and DB-25 connector are unremarkable.
There appears to be 17 opto-isolators. I am not sure what the extras are for. I would rather the optos are socketed, rather than surface mounted as they are.
There are 2 Schmidt trigger chips, which appear for cleaning up the digital signals.
It may be a few weeks before I get a computer going to test it, but I will follow up on it here.
Last edit: 24 Apr 2018 00:01 by BrendaEM.
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28 Apr 2018 21:42 #109774
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
Powering them from a USB is a nice idea, i always do that.
Those BOB are fairly slow as they use cheap optoisolators so in some cases you might be better of without it.
There are 17 optos as it needs 12 outputs and 5 inputs and all of them are isolated.
You are correct about the Schmidt triggers.
Those BOB are fairly slow as they use cheap optoisolators so in some cases you might be better of without it.
There are 17 optos as it needs 12 outputs and 5 inputs and all of them are isolated.
You are correct about the Schmidt triggers.
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03 May 2018 23:35 - 03 May 2018 23:52 #110152
by BrendaEM
Replied by BrendaEM on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
"There are 17 optos as it needs 12 outputs and 5 inputs and all of them are isolated."
I guess I need a little math practice : )
I drew up a 3D printed enclosure for the board. If the board works okay, I will upload the stl file to thingiverse. If it doesn't I wouldn't want to encourage anyone.
Anyway, the box is simple. It just protects the board, and gives a lot of places to ziptie wires in place so they are strain-relieved. That's what all those little slots (and the ones you can't see) are all about. The cover is printing, now.
I am still hopeful that this board will be fast enough for my machine. I only have a long-style Nema23-sized 5-phase y-axis motor to move a 3+ foot wide gantry, so I don't expect blazing performance to begin with. The motor can move the gantry at reasonable speeds and acceleration, but even with smooth acceleration at high acceleration rates, I can stall it. I left a space for an A axis. One never knows.
I used my RDL Adruino stepper utility to test the access and move it around for working on it.
Looking forward to all the axis moving at once : )
I guess I need a little math practice : )
I drew up a 3D printed enclosure for the board. If the board works okay, I will upload the stl file to thingiverse. If it doesn't I wouldn't want to encourage anyone.
Anyway, the box is simple. It just protects the board, and gives a lot of places to ziptie wires in place so they are strain-relieved. That's what all those little slots (and the ones you can't see) are all about. The cover is printing, now.
I am still hopeful that this board will be fast enough for my machine. I only have a long-style Nema23-sized 5-phase y-axis motor to move a 3+ foot wide gantry, so I don't expect blazing performance to begin with. The motor can move the gantry at reasonable speeds and acceleration, but even with smooth acceleration at high acceleration rates, I can stall it. I left a space for an A axis. One never knows.
I used my RDL Adruino stepper utility to test the access and move it around for working on it.
Looking forward to all the axis moving at once : )
Last edit: 03 May 2018 23:52 by BrendaEM.
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04 May 2018 00:32 - 04 May 2018 00:34 #110154
by Grotius
Replied by Grotius on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
Hi Brenda,
This board can go up to 7200mm/min on 4 axis with stepper drive on 10000 puls/rev. On mach it can go up to 15000 mm/min on
3 axis with dual core pc.
This are importand value's for the board :
Nice to have a 3d printer. Do you print igus chain's also?
This board can go up to 7200mm/min on 4 axis with stepper drive on 10000 puls/rev. On mach it can go up to 15000 mm/min on
3 axis with dual core pc.
This are importand value's for the board :
[EMCMOT]
EMCMOT = motmod
COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0
BASE_PERIOD = 30000
SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000
Nice to have a 3d printer. Do you print igus chain's also?
Last edit: 04 May 2018 00:34 by Grotius.
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04 May 2018 06:45 - 04 May 2018 06:49 #110170
by BrendaEM
Replied by BrendaEM on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
Grotius, thanks for the info and settings : )
Now, I someone might give me a laptop with parallel port on it, so I'm going to try that.
No, the chains were takeout. This machine is made from scrap wafer-fabrication parts. Even the wire is used : )
Though a lot of the linear stuff is NHK : )
The chain was made from two segments. I didn't have enough links for the small one, but I found 10 links on ebay for $5. : )
I will post a current pic of it this weekend.
Now, I someone might give me a laptop with parallel port on it, so I'm going to try that.
No, the chains were takeout. This machine is made from scrap wafer-fabrication parts. Even the wire is used : )
Though a lot of the linear stuff is NHK : )
The chain was made from two segments. I didn't have enough links for the small one, but I found 10 links on ebay for $5. : )
I will post a current pic of it this weekend.
Last edit: 04 May 2018 06:49 by BrendaEM.
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08 May 2018 02:30 #110363
by BrendaEM
Replied by BrendaEM on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
My friend donated a Optiplex 755, with 4GB RAM, with a parallel port on the back.
Apparently, the Jitter is 43933, and 23482, and I am not getting warnings, so I hope that will run my machine.
My machine has a undersized y-axis motor, so I don't need a lot of speed.
The interval numbers are 1040093, and 48388. I don't know if that means as much?
Apparently, the Jitter is 43933, and 23482, and I am not getting warnings, so I hope that will run my machine.
My machine has a undersized y-axis motor, so I don't need a lot of speed.
The interval numbers are 1040093, and 48388. I don't know if that means as much?
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08 May 2018 20:38 #110397
by tommylight
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I use plenty of those Optiplex series computers on many machines, none of them have any issues, ever. Most of them use parallel port, only 2 or 3 use 5i25 from Mesa.
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09 May 2018 00:42 - 09 May 2018 00:42 #110405
by BrendaEM
Replied by BrendaEM on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
"Most of them ..."
How many do you have?
How many do you have?
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09 May 2018 13:15 #110435
by rodw
Tommy's CNC machines breed in his workshop like coat hangers in a closet!
Replied by rodw on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
"Most of them ..."
How many do you have?
Tommy's CNC machines breed in his workshop like coat hangers in a closet!
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09 May 2018 21:22 #110453
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LOL , nice one Rob, thank you for a nice reason to laugh.
BrendaEM,
I have at least 2 or 3 at any given time in my workshop, plus over 15 on customers machines working daily.
I just like the reliability and the price, i can get them for as low as 45 to 100 Euro here.
Replied by tommylight on topic First Look: Cheap Parallel Port Opto Isolator Board
"Most of them ..."
How many do you have?
Tommy's CNC machines breed in his workshop like coat hangers in a closet!
LOL , nice one Rob, thank you for a nice reason to laugh.
BrendaEM,
I have at least 2 or 3 at any given time in my workshop, plus over 15 on customers machines working daily.
I just like the reliability and the price, i can get them for as low as 45 to 100 Euro here.
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