7C81 - It appears that I have the wrong BOB, what now?
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28 Jun 2023 20:20 #274412
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I can report that all pins behave as I previously posted regardless of LinuxCNC - even while the Pi is booting. One thing I have yet to report is that the first line after running nearly anything with mesaflash is:I don't know if this is meaningful in any way.
I checked my DB25 to 26pin cable for continuity; it works as expected.
Lastly, the amber led on the 7C81 turns on immediately at boot - which I understand to mean a valid profile has been loaded. Perhaps not a surprise, but SPI does seem to be working fine by every indication.
While likely unrelated - I am noticing that power/signals from any source have a ~1Hz "pulse" of maybe 0.03V when inspecting with my oscilloscope.
Please let me know what other diagnostics I can provide.
unable to set bpw32, fallback to bpw8
I checked my DB25 to 26pin cable for continuity; it works as expected.
Lastly, the amber led on the 7C81 turns on immediately at boot - which I understand to mean a valid profile has been loaded. Perhaps not a surprise, but SPI does seem to be working fine by every indication.
While likely unrelated - I am noticing that power/signals from any source have a ~1Hz "pulse" of maybe 0.03V when inspecting with my oscilloscope.
Please let me know what other diagnostics I can provide.
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28 Jun 2023 20:26 #274413
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If _any_ I/O pin is low when the 7C81 powered but not running LinuxCNC
then is is likely that the 7C81 has been damaged.
then is is likely that the 7C81 has been damaged.
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28 Jun 2023 21:01 #274416
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That's disastrous news!
But I suppose it's a watertight answer for my problems...
I don't suppose you have any insight as to when the 7C8x will be back in stock, would you?
But I suppose it's a watertight answer for my problems...
I don't suppose you have any insight as to when the 7C8x will be back in stock, would you?
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28 Jun 2023 21:17 #274417
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We will have the 7C81T later this year
plus we may have a few boards with solder issues
that can be fixed
It's likely your 7C81 is repairable
Most like U1 is damaged
(Usually from high negative input currents damaging the input clamp diodes)
You can check by measuring the voltage across C14, it should be ~4.2V
Another option is to use P2 instead
plus we may have a few boards with solder issues
that can be fixed
It's likely your 7C81 is repairable
Most like U1 is damaged
(Usually from high negative input currents damaging the input clamp diodes)
You can check by measuring the voltage across C14, it should be ~4.2V
Another option is to use P2 instead
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28 Jun 2023 22:00 #274418
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I'm measuring:
24.7mV across C14
4.12V across C15
4.16V across C32
I removed the Pi and checked all GPIO on P2 and P7. They read 5V across the board.
24.7mV across C14
4.12V across C15
4.16V across C32
I removed the Pi and checked all GPIO on P2 and P7. They read 5V across the board.
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28 Jun 2023 23:35 - 28 Jun 2023 23:36 #274419
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That is evidence that the 74CBT16211 (U1) has been damaged.
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29 Jun 2023 00:04 #274420
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I like the sound of 7C81T,
are you keeping the RPI header the same as the original?
are you keeping the RPI header the same as the original?
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29 Jun 2023 00:56 #274425
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I tried to do exactly that - but instead of continuing to struggle, I thought I'd ask for a hint for how I'd do this. (I think it's reasonable to assume I'm doing it wrong.)
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Another option is to use P2 instead
I tried to do exactly that - but instead of continuing to struggle, I thought I'd ask for a hint for how I'd do this. (I think it's reasonable to assume I'm doing it wrong.)
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29 Jun 2023 01:03 - 29 Jun 2023 01:44 #274426
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You would need to either use firmware that swapped the connectors
or enable the stepgens/pwmgens on P2 and edit the hal file to suit.
Firmware with P1/P2 swapped
or enable the stepgens/pwmgens on P2 and edit the hal file to suit.
Firmware with P1/P2 swapped
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29 Jun 2023 02:21 #274431
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No, I will offset it since a short cable works reliablyI like the sound of 7C81T,
are you keeping the RPI header the same as the original?
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