Recommend a small commercial CNC machine
I'd like to buy my first CNC machine and I would like it to be small - desktop size if possible. I only want to make things like non-mechanical parts for scale models (i.e. toys) so it doesn't need to have ultra precision. I'd prefer one that had as many axes as possible because I'm more confident of my skill as a programmer than my skill as a machinist; I'd prefer not to do many setups.
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Are you looking for a milling machine? Im not to familiar with desktop mills, however when you said toys, the first thing I thought was 3D printer, the range on these is jaw dropping, from the simple repraps to the resin+uv rapid prototyping setups, you might want to look into something like that.
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Just asking for a "CNC machine" is a little like asking for a recommendation for something with wheels.
Are you after a router, mill, lathe, laser, plasma cutter...
CNC could be just about any kind automated machine with a computer in it.
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I don't want to sound mean
Be as mean as you like!
Just asking for a "CNC machine" is a little like asking for a recommendation for something with wheels.
Are you after a router, mill, lathe, laser, plasma cutter...
CNC could be just about any kind automated machine with a computer in it.
I don't want a plasma cutter or a lathe, but my wishes are fairly vague and almost any other kind of automated machine of a desktop size would interest me. (After all this will only be my first CNC machine.) I visualize making things like pieces for the body of a model tank, such as the top of the turret. This is roughly a flat shape but, in the terminology of mold making, it would look better if it had mild undercuts.
If a mill can do only 3 axis motion, I visualize it as having to cut "straight down" on the work. So it wouldn't be good for mild undercuts. If there is a mill-like machine that can tilt its head and come in at various angles, that would be of interest. If there is an automated platform that can sit on the table of the mill and tilt the work piece, that would be of interest.
A small robot arm holding a router would be interesting, but I haven't seen such a machine advertised.that was Linux compatible.
A 3D printer would also be interesting, but my impression of 3D printing (for the home craftsman) is that it makes pronounced steps iin the sloped sides of the work. Is that correct?
I'd be happy with a machine that could cut hard waxes and plastic. It wouoldn't necessarily need to cut metals.
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You do get some steps, but I think that they would often be concealed by paint.A 3D printer would also be interesting, but my impression of 3D printing (for the home craftsman) is that it makes pronounced steps iin the sloped sides of the work. Is that correct?
Some good examples here:
blog.ultimaker.com/made/
Have you seen this machine?I'd be happy with a machine that could cut hard waxes and plastic. It wouoldn't necessarily need to cut metals.
It seems to have been developed by en.pmc.org.tw/static.aspx?type=AboutUs who are a non-profit, so I guess one would need to find which manufacturer they developed it for.
If you have very deep pockets, then perhaps hobbyshopcnc.com/mini_mill_pro.htm
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If you have very deep pockets, then perhaps hobbyshopcnc.com/mini_mill_pro.htm
Wow that is pricy but seems to be built well...
John
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I fond the manufactures site:Wow that is pricy but seems to be built well...
www.minitech.com
You can spec-up their granite-based machine to well over $30,000. For some of the types of work they show micrographs of that might be quite good value.
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I wouldn't mind having one though!
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As far as the 3D printers, the deposition type printers (ala reprap) due to the nature of the process cannot make a perfectly straight vertical wall...though if you had a reprap with a fourth and fifth axis bed, I don't see why that would still be the case. On the other hand, the UV "layering" machines have no such limitations since these work by cooking the top layer of resin in a pool with a pointed UV light source. There is a base that starts at the surface and moves down with each layer that is cooked. Cook enough layers and you have a 3D parts. Its pretty amazing what you can do with this type of printer. I don't know what the technical name for these are, but it used to be that you could get them REALLY cheap used... the expensive part was the resin.
Frank
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When I surf the web for CNC machinery, I don't see many machines that advertise "Linux Compatibility", and I'm unsure of how the whole CNC software game works. My guess is that the biggest market is for machines that take some sort of data file as input and know how to execute it. I also guess that desktop computers are used to prepare this data file. So a Linux desktop system only has to produce the data file in the correct format. Is that correct?
As a programmer and somewhat competent mathematician, it would be more interesting to me if the desktop computer prepared very low level instructions for the machine (like move the head to (x,y,z), turn the head to angle theta etc.). I'm curious whether CNC machines use any sort of feedback. For example, I think it would be useful if a machine has probe that be used to "touch" the work and verify its current shape. ( I suspect that these wishes go against the wishes of the commerical market!)
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I suspect most people that use linuxcnc, either retrofit used machines or make their own.
Frank
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