I had this crazy idea - Lets build a shock dyno with Linuxcnc
16 Jan 2020 11:24 #155015
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic I had this crazy idea - Lets build a shock dyno with Linuxcnc
Thanks guys. Its very encouraging to have some feedback and interest in this crazy project. Andy, I did have a quick look at the back cover today. Its held on by 4 screws. I've been pretty reluctant to take the motor out of the crate it came in because its bolted down and is forkliftable as it is. I weighed it on my vehicle scales as it came in and it was 124kg so its not easy to mover
around. But then I remembered I have a small but solid trolley on wheels that has a 60mm plywood top on it. So I think when I get a chance, I'll bolt the motor down on that and it will still be mobile. That way I can work on it and push it out of the road when I'm not. Who knows the trolley might become part of the build.
around. But then I remembered I have a small but solid trolley on wheels that has a 60mm plywood top on it. So I think when I get a chance, I'll bolt the motor down on that and it will still be mobile. That way I can work on it and push it out of the road when I'm not. Who knows the trolley might become part of the build.
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17 Jan 2020 11:02 #155057
by andypugh
It has just occurred to me that we seem to be stuck in 19th Century thinking.
It should be perfectly possible to 3D print the big bevel gear with an integrated toothed-belt pulley.
(I have a CAD package that can make accurate 3D models of bevel gear sets)
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Andy, thanks. I did give this a bit more thought and at one stage I got close to ringing up a gear supplier but got interrupted.
It has just occurred to me that we seem to be stuck in 19th Century thinking.
It should be perfectly possible to 3D print the big bevel gear with an integrated toothed-belt pulley.
(I have a CAD package that can make accurate 3D models of bevel gear sets)
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03 Feb 2020 15:11 #156440
by andypugh
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Irrelevant, except for the stroke adjustment, but here is a shaper attachment for a lathe that I felt I had to share the pics of.
www.lathes.co.uk/drummondwithshaperattachment/
www.lathes.co.uk/drummondwithshaperattachment/
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03 Feb 2020 21:08 #156473
by rodw
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Andy, thanks. I have not had any spare time to work on the CAD files. I might have a window now for a week or so as I wait for others to complete some tasks on some work related projects. I'm paying the bills so it has to come first!
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24 Dec 2020 21:06 #193145
by dberndt
Replied by dberndt on topic I had this crazy idea - Lets build a shock dyno with Linuxcnc
I'm going to jump in here, hopefully it's not unwelcome.
I've been dreaming of a dyno build for years but never seem to get around to it. Getting things like a vertical mill up and running seemed more pressing. But now it feels like time. I've been accumulating parts for a while now.... Rodw's use of a linear bearing for the scotch yoke blew my mind, I had much more complex ideas, but that seems like such a workable and easy solution.
My first step is go build a spring dyno, then a shock dyno, on the same control system to save on cost. The spring dyno will just be some solenoid valves, pneumatic cylinder, load cell, and a glass scale linear encoder.
The real value is in gathering the data at a reasonable rate and smuggling it out of the linuxcnc environment into something useful like a database. I guess it's up to me to pickup from halstreamer and do something useful with the data....
Anyone have any suggestions about this approach? Thoughts on the electronics? Should I look elsewhere? I've got a reasonable knowledge of linuxcnc and HAL and it seems like leveraging HAL would be the most sensible thing over finding some other software or writing a dedicated system for raspberry pi or maybe a teensyduino 4.x.
It looks like I'll want:
2+ quadrature encoder inputs
A few reasonable resolution analog inputs
+/- 10v output for servo drives to the dyno preferred, but could probably live with step/dir
Some digital outs for the solenoids
Running an external card (not pci/pci-e) would be preferred.
It seems like maybe a 7i97 would be a good place to start if a bit overkill?
Rodw, Have you gone a different way with your dyno project? Or is it just a bit stalled in 2020?
I've been dreaming of a dyno build for years but never seem to get around to it. Getting things like a vertical mill up and running seemed more pressing. But now it feels like time. I've been accumulating parts for a while now.... Rodw's use of a linear bearing for the scotch yoke blew my mind, I had much more complex ideas, but that seems like such a workable and easy solution.
My first step is go build a spring dyno, then a shock dyno, on the same control system to save on cost. The spring dyno will just be some solenoid valves, pneumatic cylinder, load cell, and a glass scale linear encoder.
The real value is in gathering the data at a reasonable rate and smuggling it out of the linuxcnc environment into something useful like a database. I guess it's up to me to pickup from halstreamer and do something useful with the data....
Anyone have any suggestions about this approach? Thoughts on the electronics? Should I look elsewhere? I've got a reasonable knowledge of linuxcnc and HAL and it seems like leveraging HAL would be the most sensible thing over finding some other software or writing a dedicated system for raspberry pi or maybe a teensyduino 4.x.
It looks like I'll want:
2+ quadrature encoder inputs
A few reasonable resolution analog inputs
+/- 10v output for servo drives to the dyno preferred, but could probably live with step/dir
Some digital outs for the solenoids
Running an external card (not pci/pci-e) would be preferred.
It seems like maybe a 7i97 would be a good place to start if a bit overkill?
Rodw, Have you gone a different way with your dyno project? Or is it just a bit stalled in 2020?
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24 Dec 2020 21:51 #193146
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic I had this crazy idea - Lets build a shock dyno with Linuxcnc
I had forgotten about this discussion.
I designed yet another variable-stroke mechanism a few weeks ago, this was for a slotting-head idea.
I designed yet another variable-stroke mechanism a few weeks ago, this was for a slotting-head idea.
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24 Dec 2020 23:53 #193154
by rodw
I had too but the last few days its been back on my mind... Thanks to dberndt for finding this thread again for me!
Too many projects competing for my available budget for time and cash but I have a shipment of shocks arriving in early January! I'm out of time on Christmas morning but I'll come back on Boxing Day!
Replied by rodw on topic I had this crazy idea - Lets build a shock dyno with Linuxcnc
I had forgotten about this discussion.
I had too but the last few days its been back on my mind... Thanks to dberndt for finding this thread again for me!
Too many projects competing for my available budget for time and cash but I have a shipment of shocks arriving in early January! I'm out of time on Christmas morning but I'll come back on Boxing Day!
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