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03 Jan 2012 21:48 #16273 by Harry_Y
Rick G wrote:

I ran two CAT5 cables and an extra pull line in conduit out to my shop, works great. Much better in my case than wireless.

Rick G


I am a network guy and I only use wireless as a last resort.

Hard wired is the way to go

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04 Jan 2012 17:04 #16308 by boldford
Harry_Y wrote:

I am a network guy and I only use wireless as a last resort.

Hard wired is the way to go

As a retired network guy I'm inclined to agree. I am aware of the robustness of a hard wired connection.

I'm now encountering a very strange phenomena. Having initially installed the 10.04 Live CD on the Gateway Flexatxstc BRO 600 it was working fine. Having now received and hacked the fully height LAN card provided by a friend I decided to download and update the patches to 10.04.3 (which took forever).

Bad move! It broke so I'm now putting the 10.04 Live CD back on, as is, and then try and find what my little BRO doesn't like and what of the patches could/should be omitted

Any thoughts from the panel?

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05 Jan 2012 09:18 #16323 by ArcEye

I decided to download and update the patches to 10.04.3 (which took forever).

I presume you mean you ran the update manager.

Don't.

Ubuntu 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-122-rtai is the basis of the whole EMC install and what it was built against.

If you 'upgrade' the kernel, it will not be a real time kernel, so EMC will no longer work.

If you upgrade individual applications, you will get away with it with some and not others.
If whatever prompted the new kernel number contained changes that directly affect an application,the new version will have been rebuilt against the new kernel and may no longer work.

If you want to upgrade EMC, that is completely different.

You can run whatever version of EMC you like with the current kernel, 2.4.7 is the latest fully supported release, 2.5.xxx is a pretty stable beta used by a lot of people for features which have not migrated to the 2.4 series and which are used by some setups.

regards

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05 Jan 2012 10:13 #16326 by boldford
ArcEye wrote:

. . . . .Don't.. . . . .

And to prevent me making further stupid mistakes again I'm going to be remove the NIC to make it a stand alone machine. G code files can be delivered to the workshop on a pen drive.

It serves me right for trying to be clever. :blush:

Still it'll save having to dig that trench for the network cable I mentioned earlier.

Ho hum.

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05 Jan 2012 12:06 #16333 by andypugh
boldford wrote:

And to prevent me making further stupid mistakes again I'm going to be remove the NIC to make it a stand alone machine. G code files can be delivered to the workshop on a pen drive.


Well... If you can find a way to make the NIC work there are other advantages, like being able to sit inside in the warm and keep an eye on the CNC machine with VNC while it does long jobs.

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05 Jan 2012 12:07 #16334 by BigJohnT
Well... the only thing you don't want to upgrade is the operating system. If you go to System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager you can turn off the prompt for upgrading the operating system. While possible to get upgrades with a pen drive is it much easier to do so with an internet connection. Of course the most important upgrades are the EMC ones.

John

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05 Jan 2012 12:53 #16339 by ArcEye

I'm going to be remove the NIC to make it a stand alone machine

You don't need to do that, its not a mistake you are going to make again!
As John said you can disable selective updates and disable update notifications too, so that you don't get tempted!

Having the workshop computers networked has huge advantages, even for something as simple as being able to do remote backups with rsync.
I write code in the warm of the house, test it in simulation and then 'post' it on my NAS.
I can then download the code from the workshop and 'post' back any modified files so that everything is synchronised.

If you want a hassle free wired connection, look at Homeplugs/Powerline adaptors.

On a good ring main they give full speed broadband (even 200ft away down the garden in my case). If you have a 'noisy' machine, you may have to filter it to use the connection whilst that motor is running, but will save a lot of drilling.

regards

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05 Jan 2012 20:51 #16356 by boldford
So I get yet another bump along the road to CNC enlightenment.

I shall remember to take far greater care with what upgrade/updates I apply.

I've now reinstalled 10.04 with the 2.6.32-122-rtai kernel to try again.

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05 Jan 2012 22:04 #16359 by BigJohnT
At least that kind of mistake won't break anything physically or spill blood so it is easy to recover from it.

John

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26 Jan 2012 15:00 #17158 by boldford
A cheap parallel card arrived today from HK so now to give it a try in the Gateway. I'll keep you posted on my success or otherwise.

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