basic 3-phase xfmr power supply questions. re:7i29
01 May 2012 18:43 #19720
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Re:basic 3-phase xfmr power supply questions. re:7i29
_jC wrote:
Looking on eBay.. www.ebay.com/itm/IN5409-SILICON-RECTIFIE...-15PCS-/290514273681
(Not what you described, but cheap)
Mouser have 600V 60A rectifier diodes at $2.52 each.
Would someone care to recommend a discrete diode with a case that can be heatsinked to ground potential?
Looking on eBay.. www.ebay.com/itm/IN5409-SILICON-RECTIFIE...-15PCS-/290514273681
(Not what you described, but cheap)
Mouser have 600V 60A rectifier diodes at $2.52 each.
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07 May 2012 02:32 #19894
by Zig
Replied by Zig on topic Re:basic 3-phase xfmr power supply questions. re:7i29
If You do not need independent powersupplies I would recomend sticking with six phase star connection.
A suitable diode connection as shown iin concjunction with single DC output and a common star point is a great LOW STORED ENERGY solution while maintaining a very low ripple .
Six phase combo will result in twelve pulse rectifier output giving under 3% ripple with no filter capacitor.
No filter cap no energy to be dumped anywhere under emergency conditions.
A suitable diode connection as shown iin concjunction with single DC output and a common star point is a great LOW STORED ENERGY solution while maintaining a very low ripple .
Six phase combo will result in twelve pulse rectifier output giving under 3% ripple with no filter capacitor.
No filter cap no energy to be dumped anywhere under emergency conditions.
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07 May 2012 06:17 - 07 May 2012 06:17 #19895
by jCandlish
Replied by jCandlish on topic Re:basic 3-phase xfmr power supply questions. re:7i29
Zig wrote:
I am under the impression that for the 7129 H-Bridges the capacitance is required to protect against surges. From the 7i29 manual:
The 7I29 does not have any braking or load dump capability, so if the 7I29 is operated near the maximum power supply voltage, either sufficient external capacitance or and external voltage sensing brake circuit may be required to prevent excessive voltage surges on the
motor power supply when decelerating large motors.
And from post 13275@ SETUP OF MESA 5I20/7I29 FOR DC SERVO MOTORS
Yes you need a large electrolytic capacitor on the output of the rectifier to absorb reverse energy from the motor inductance(s) Probably on the order of 10000 uF. Its not safe to run without this capacitor
So thats a conumdrum.
I should note that the existing e-stop circuit de-engerizes a NO relay at the input of the servo power supply xfmr. Relay C1 at 2-3.
Sixis S2103 Circuit .
As Peter pointed out, it is the only topology suitable for the required voltage.Six phase combo will result in twelve pulse rectifier output giving under 3% ripple with no filter capacitor.
Interesting point!No filter cap no energy to be dumped anywhere under emergency conditions.
I am under the impression that for the 7129 H-Bridges the capacitance is required to protect against surges. From the 7i29 manual:
The 7I29 does not have any braking or load dump capability, so if the 7I29 is operated near the maximum power supply voltage, either sufficient external capacitance or and external voltage sensing brake circuit may be required to prevent excessive voltage surges on the
motor power supply when decelerating large motors.
And from post 13275@ SETUP OF MESA 5I20/7I29 FOR DC SERVO MOTORS
Yes you need a large electrolytic capacitor on the output of the rectifier to absorb reverse energy from the motor inductance(s) Probably on the order of 10000 uF. Its not safe to run without this capacitor
So thats a conumdrum.
I should note that the existing e-stop circuit de-engerizes a NO relay at the input of the servo power supply xfmr. Relay C1 at 2-3.
Sixis S2103 Circuit .
Last edit: 07 May 2012 06:17 by jCandlish.
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07 May 2012 21:47 #19916
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Re:basic 3-phase xfmr power supply questions. re:7i29
My home-built PSU has a power resistor between the rectifier and the capacitors which is short-circuited by a timer-controlled relay.
A second NC relay connects a second power resistor across the capacitors to discharge them when the power goes off.
There isn't a lot more to it: picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HdNJXBD5wP...pFm0?feat=directlink
A second NC relay connects a second power resistor across the capacitors to discharge them when the power goes off.
There isn't a lot more to it: picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HdNJXBD5wP...pFm0?feat=directlink
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