Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
11 Jul 2013 21:25 #36559
by nquantum
Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion was created by nquantum
I've read about download and installation."Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS" @download page of LinuxCNC
Also "Do not upgrade Ubuntu to a new but non-LTS version (like 8.04 to 8.10) as it will prevent LinuxCNC from running." @getting start manual
So it mean I can't "upgrade" Ubuntu LTS to another version aside from what I've installed from image. But I still can "update" to any packages that available in update manager without problem.
Am I right?
I try to google to find that whether if I can update other packages aside from LinuxCNC after I installed it or not. Or only I can update package LinuxCNC , the other packages leave un-touch. So far I don't found clearly answer.
hope I can get here thank you
Also "Do not upgrade Ubuntu to a new but non-LTS version (like 8.04 to 8.10) as it will prevent LinuxCNC from running." @getting start manual
So it mean I can't "upgrade" Ubuntu LTS to another version aside from what I've installed from image. But I still can "update" to any packages that available in update manager without problem.
Am I right?
I try to google to find that whether if I can update other packages aside from LinuxCNC after I installed it or not. Or only I can update package LinuxCNC , the other packages leave un-touch. So far I don't found clearly answer.
hope I can get here thank you
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11 Jul 2013 22:23 #36560
by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
Hi
Simply put, the issue is the rtai kernel that supports Linuxcnc.
It is based upon the kernel in the LTS version
The upgrade will change the kernel to a non-rtai kernel and linuxcnc will cease to work
You can update other packages, so long as you ensure that you do not update the kernel, kernel headers etc
This just means do not do any unattended updates, look through what is going to be changed and make sure it is OK before pressing the button
regards
Simply put, the issue is the rtai kernel that supports Linuxcnc.
It is based upon the kernel in the LTS version
The upgrade will change the kernel to a non-rtai kernel and linuxcnc will cease to work
You can update other packages, so long as you ensure that you do not update the kernel, kernel headers etc
This just means do not do any unattended updates, look through what is going to be changed and make sure it is OK before pressing the button
regards
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11 Jul 2013 22:23 #36561
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
Yes, you can update anything except the operating system.
JT
JT
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11 Jul 2013 22:50 - 11 Jul 2013 22:53 #36564
by nquantum
Replied by nquantum on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
hahaha so fast respond thank you so much!!, still my fingers is super fast!!
I've hit update everything already!!! Just to try it.
Now updating is in progress.
I'm new for Linux also LinuxCNC/EMC. I'd like to learn both of them that another reason I try EMC.
I'm not sure my update isn't update "operating system" in your term , BigJohnT
But I'm sure I'm not "upgrade" kernel. I've shown the "upgrade-button" in synaptic package manager. I'm not touching it. And I also selected "Never" for Release Upgrade in synaptic as well. -ArcEye
I don't know this will work or not.
Is this gonna be alright? well..if it doesn't I plan to re-format and install new.
I've hit update everything already!!! Just to try it.
Now updating is in progress.
I'm new for Linux also LinuxCNC/EMC. I'd like to learn both of them that another reason I try EMC.
Yes, you can update anything except the operating system.
JT
I'm not sure my update isn't update "operating system" in your term , BigJohnT
But I'm sure I'm not "upgrade" kernel. I've shown the "upgrade-button" in synaptic package manager. I'm not touching it. And I also selected "Never" for Release Upgrade in synaptic as well. -ArcEye
I don't know this will work or not.
Is this gonna be alright? well..if it doesn't I plan to re-format and install new.
Last edit: 11 Jul 2013 22:53 by nquantum.
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12 Jul 2013 01:19 - 12 Jul 2013 01:21 #36577
by nquantum
Replied by nquantum on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
update:
now I've finished update all the thing in update manager.
no more other update.
I've test in Latency test. Result is still similar the same. And I try LinuxCNC and appear to be alright!
So that I guess no problem.
Since I'm newbie in both Linux and LinuxCNC. So:
Is this right thing people LinuxCNC do? After new install LinuxCNC from image cd. Then update LinuxCNC package including every packages of Ubuntu itself? Or they usually update LinuxCNC package only and leave other packages un-touch?
Thank
now I've finished update all the thing in update manager.
no more other update.
I've test in Latency test. Result is still similar the same. And I try LinuxCNC and appear to be alright!
So that I guess no problem.
Since I'm newbie in both Linux and LinuxCNC. So:
Is this right thing people LinuxCNC do? After new install LinuxCNC from image cd. Then update LinuxCNC package including every packages of Ubuntu itself? Or they usually update LinuxCNC package only and leave other packages un-touch?
Thank
Last edit: 12 Jul 2013 01:21 by nquantum.
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12 Jul 2013 02:37 #36580
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
If you have an internet connection you will get updates to LinuxCNC and other software on your computer. It is normal to keep everything up to date except the operating system (Ubuntu itself).
From the main menu go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, in the Package Manager go to Settings > Repositories then on the Updates tab change Show New distribution releases to Never and you won't upgrade Ubuntu by accident... I could never understand why the LiveCD is not set this way.
JT
From the main menu go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, in the Package Manager go to Settings > Repositories then on the Updates tab change Show New distribution releases to Never and you won't upgrade Ubuntu by accident... I could never understand why the LiveCD is not set this way.
JT
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12 Jul 2013 11:12 #36586
by nquantum
Replied by nquantum on topic Do Not Update Ubuntu LTS? -confusion
thank you I've set it to Never now.
To this message u mean. Every packages I can "update" ......
except Ubuntu "upgrade" for example Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS -> 12.04 LTS or 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 that I can not right? Am I understand correct?
It is normal to keep everything up to date except the operating system (Ubuntu itself).
To this message u mean. Every packages I can "update" ......
except Ubuntu "upgrade" for example Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS -> 12.04 LTS or 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 that I can not right? Am I understand correct?
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