CNC3020 routing larger than expected

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18 Jan 2016 01:17 #68643 by spinnaker
I did not know if this belonged in the stepconf subforum or here. So if a mod wants to move it then I understand.

I just set up my cheap CNC3020 Chinese CNC machine. I am going to use it mainly for routing PCBs so I think it will do fine.

To check my calibration, I drew a 4 x 4 inch box in Draftsight. I then converted it to Gcode and opened it in LinuxCNC. The display showed a 4x4 inch box. But when I traced the x and y axis with the axis controls in Linux CNC the machine actually moved almost 5 inches for each axis as opposed to 4. I assume this is some kind of setting (maybe in stepconf) but I am not sure what. What setting would this be and is there anyway to figure out what value I need as opposed to a lot of trail and error?

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18 Jan 2016 03:08 #68646 by Paul
Do you know how far an axis moves for one revolution of it's motor? Also, do you know how many pulses it takes for one motor revolution?

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18 Jan 2016 04:33 - 18 Jan 2016 04:51 #68648 by spinnaker
It seems to work fine in Mach3. There aren't as many setting in Mach3 so I don't know how it figures that all out.

The settings are:

Steps Per: 400
Velocity Inches per minute: 1999.8
Acceleration inches per second: 200
Step Pulse: 1us
Dir Pulse: 1

The mach3 settings are pretty much all you get.

I tried importing the Mach3 xml into Stepconf but it does not seem to import it.

I assume I can just measure that distance by watching the motor?
Last edit: 18 Jan 2016 04:51 by spinnaker.

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18 Jan 2016 04:51 #68651 by spinnaker
By no means a super accurate measurement but I turned the motor 20 revolutions and the machine traveled 3.150 inches. That means .1575 inches per revolution.

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18 Jan 2016 07:20 #68653 by geoffs
The 3020's generally have a 1204 trapezoidal screw for all axes. .1575" is 4.000mm so your measurement is spot on.

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18 Jan 2016 09:04 #68658 by Rick G
Might want to keep it simple to start.
Make sure all offsets are off.
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CoordinateSystems
Jog to a location and touch off.
Below in inches
F10
G1 X-.25 ;Make a small negative move
G1 X0 ;Move back to 0 (to get rid of backlash)
(Set your dial indicator)
G1 X1;Move a set amount and measure the distance the machine moved and compare that to what was commanded.
I like to make this move as long as possible for the greatest accuracy.

Calculate any difference and edit your calibration file or re run Stepconf.

Rick G

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18 Jan 2016 09:54 #68664 by cncbasher
is their any belt pully gear to account for
also if the machine is built in metric , set the machine in metric helps , as it has 1204 ballscrews
you can still use in imperial in your gcode ,

it just helps with the little errors that can pop up at times , also check what microsteps you have set
steppers are 200 steps per rev , so with for example a 1/2 step microstep setup this would become 400 , which does tend to be the default with some stepper drivers .

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18 Jan 2016 12:40 #68673 by spinnaker
Thanks everyone for your help! I found thios online

www.muskratcnc.com/machine_setup.html

And it appears to work. Does it seem to make sense?

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18 Jan 2016 12:44 - 18 Jan 2016 12:45 #68674 by spinnaker

Might want to keep it simple to start.
Make sure all offsets are off.
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CoordinateSystems
Jog to a location and touch off.
Below in inches
F10
G1 X-.25 ;Make a small negative move
G1 X0 ;Move back to 0 (to get rid of backlash)
(Set your dial indicator)
G1 X1;Move a set amount and measure the distance the machine moved and compare that to what was commanded.
I like to make this move as long as possible for the greatest accuracy.

Calculate any difference and edit your calibration file or re run Stepconf.

Rick G


I was with you up to (Set your dial indicator). Is that something I need to do? If so what. Remember I am a newb. :) The settings I found do seem to work just want to know for educational purposes
Last edit: 18 Jan 2016 12:45 by spinnaker.

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18 Jan 2016 12:47 #68676 by spinnaker

The 3020's generally have a 1204 trapezoidal screw for all axes. .1575" is 4.000mm so your measurement is spot on.


How did you know that? I assume there is a formula?

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