engraving depth setting in realtime

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13 Mar 2016 07:08 #71544 by wicki
While engraving large (ok, 30cm is not really "large") objects, the
thickness of the objects often differs a little bit. Now I will try to change
the settings of the Z-axis in realtime the following way:

A little china-vernier-caliper is read by a pic-microcontroller which sends
the results of a probe near the milling-cutter via serial port/usb to linuxcnc.
Then the Z-axis is raised/lowered based on this values.

The microcontroller delivers the values in freely definable format.
This may be inches, millimeters, motorsteps or what else.

Of course, the major problem will be the mechanical construction of the
probe (vibrations/filings/dust) - but where is the best/easiest place, to
implement the movement of Z ?

Is it in the kins, in HAL or is it possible, to do it in an own background-thread?

I think, it is something like
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Torch_Height_Control

but it should be possible, to do it with less overhead - I think....

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13 Mar 2016 10:51 - 13 Mar 2016 10:51 #71549 by Rick G
Yes, look at the plasma torch height control for ideas. The torch height control reads the voltage of the arc which varies with the distance between the torch tip and the work and makes adjustments to the Z axis on the fly. Sample configurations are included with linuxcnc.

Rick G
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13 Mar 2016 11:24 #71551 by newbynobi
@wiki,

do you know GCoderipper ?

Why not probe before engraving and just change the origin gcode.
Might be a lot easier.

Norbert

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13 Mar 2016 16:19 - 13 Mar 2016 16:20 #71569 by wicki

Why not probe before engraving and just change the origin gcode.
Might be a lot easier.


Yes, I know it.
But I want to do it with only one movement.
I wrote a china-vernier-caliper-readout a long time ago - now this
would be a task to use it for....

First I've tried to manipulate the moving axis by halcmd. That seems
to be impossible.
Last edit: 13 Mar 2016 16:20 by wicki. Reason: fipptehler

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13 Mar 2016 23:07 #71594 by andypugh

While engraving large (ok, 30cm is not really "large") objects, the
thickness of the objects often differs a little bit. ..


Here is an idea that nearly worked:

wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKins

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13 Mar 2016 23:30 #71597 by alan_3301

While engraving large (ok, 30cm is not really "large") objects, the
thickness of the objects often differs a little bit. ..


Here is an idea that nearly worked:

wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKins


What do you mean nearly worked?

I have had perfect results with probekins.

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14 Mar 2016 07:31 #71607 by newbynobi

First I've tried to manipulate the moving axis by halcmd. That seems
to be impossible.


It is possible, look at the moveoff comp.

Norbert

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14 Mar 2016 09:52 #71616 by andypugh

I have had perfect results with probekins.


I am glad to hear it. However testing found that it gave acceleration discontinuities if you moved directly through a 3-point intersection in the mesh. If there are no such intersections in the working area of your correction mesh then this won't be a problem.

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14 Mar 2016 09:53 #71617 by andypugh

First I've tried to manipulate the moving axis by halcmd. That seems
to be impossible.


It is possible, look at the moveoff comp.


For manual adjustment of an axis position the "Offset" HAL component is probably simpler.

linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/offset.9.html

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15 Mar 2016 18:06 #71690 by wicki

For manual adjustment of an axis position the "Offset" HAL component is probably simpler.


Oh yes - but it only sounds simpler (for me).
I was unable to get it working....

And I also was unable to find even one working example of the use of the offset-compoment.

The number of pins, signals and functions is really overwhelming.....

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