Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
05 Oct 2016 17:13 #81259
by oddwick
Replied by oddwick on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
yes, home all works great and is actually the only way i can get it to home. in the machine menu, it only gives the option to home x,y,y,z not x, (y^2), z, and the keyboard is obviously eventful, so i need to home all whenever i make changes, which in turn means that i need to hook up the probe and do the z all over again.
and once again i must profess that dual y homing is AMAZING!!!! squareness has always been the bane of gantry routers and keeping it square another matter! of course you always find out after a 2hr cut that ends up being a parallelogram, but now everything is perfectly square (< 0.5mm over 1.8m x 1m !!!) everytime AND i can make adjustments in software instead of hardware! brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT!
and once again i must profess that dual y homing is AMAZING!!!! squareness has always been the bane of gantry routers and keeping it square another matter! of course you always find out after a 2hr cut that ends up being a parallelogram, but now everything is perfectly square (< 0.5mm over 1.8m x 1m !!!) everytime AND i can make adjustments in software instead of hardware! brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT!
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05 Oct 2016 17:16 #81260
by oddwick
i use cambam for my cam and its setup with the default post mainly with a few changes. the only post i have really overhauled is for my laser. i will give that a try and see if that makes a difference. I'm still curious though as to why it would still ignore every limit i set on it...
Replied by oddwick on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
Were you using G64 or G64Pn (n=some tolerance number such as 0.001)? The P number is very important with G64, with out it most machines will make a big mess of most code.
i use cambam for my cam and its setup with the default post mainly with a few changes. the only post i have really overhauled is for my laser. i will give that a try and see if that makes a difference. I'm still curious though as to why it would still ignore every limit i set on it...
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05 Oct 2016 19:36 #81271
by andypugh
So am I.
What do the INI HAL pins say the max velocity for Z is?
Replied by andypugh on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
I'm still curious though as to why it would still ignore every limit i set on it...
So am I.
What do the INI HAL pins say the max velocity for Z is?
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05 Oct 2016 20:16 #81272
by Todd Zuercher
Why are you re-homing all the time? That is what the work coordinate system (G54,G55,...) touch offs are for.
Replied by Todd Zuercher on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
yes, home all works great and is actually the only way i can get it to home. in the machine menu, it only gives the option to home x,y,y,z not x, (y^2), z, and the keyboard is obviously eventful, so i need to home all whenever i make changes, which in turn means that i need to hook up the probe and do the z all over again.
and once again i must profess that dual y homing is AMAZING!!!! squareness has always been the bane of gantry routers and keeping it square another matter! of course you always find out after a 2hr cut that ends up being a parallelogram, but now everything is perfectly square (< 0.5mm over 1.8m x 1m !!!) everytime AND i can make adjustments in software instead of hardware! brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT!
Why are you re-homing all the time? That is what the work coordinate system (G54,G55,...) touch offs are for.
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05 Oct 2016 23:27 #81282
by oddwick
during the tuning, I've been adjusting homing switches and normally my z doesn't have a homing or limit switch, so i have a routine that probes and homes the z, but sometimes its easier to use the home button on the keyboard, or the end button for touchoffs. on the previous version, sometimes i would bind it up and need to rehome just one axis, so i would use the home button. but normally for the x/y i use g54 coords.
Replied by oddwick on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
Why are you re-homing all the time? That is what the work coordinate system (G54,G55,...) touch offs are for.
during the tuning, I've been adjusting homing switches and normally my z doesn't have a homing or limit switch, so i have a routine that probes and homes the z, but sometimes its easier to use the home button on the keyboard, or the end button for touchoffs. on the previous version, sometimes i would bind it up and need to rehome just one axis, so i would use the home button. but normally for the x/y i use g54 coords.
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05 Oct 2016 23:34 #81283
by oddwick
originally it was just the default setup generated by stepgen, but i added those lines on the recommendation of tommylight and it made no difference. it seems that the only way to limit my z was through the master velocity slider in axis and then only if it were set ridiculously low.
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What do the INI HAL pins say the max velocity for Z is?
setp stepgen.3.maxvel [JOINT_3]MAX_VELOCITY
setp stepgen.3.maxaccel [JOINT_3]STEPGEN_MAXACCELoriginally it was just the default setup generated by stepgen, but i added those lines on the recommendation of tommylight and it made no difference. it seems that the only way to limit my z was through the master velocity slider in axis and then only if it were set ridiculously low.
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06 Oct 2016 00:17 #81284
by andypugh
I might have been unclear. It should be possible to look in "show HAL config" and look at the INI pins to check that the values got through.
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What do the INI HAL pins say the max velocity for Z is?
.setp stepgen.3.maxvel [JOINT_3]MAX_VELOCITY setp stepgen.3.maxaccel [JOINT_3]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL
I might have been unclear. It should be possible to look in "show HAL config" and look at the INI pins to check that the values got through.
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06 Oct 2016 16:41 #81306
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
It might be a bug if trying to jog Z actually jogs Y2. But the rest of the behaviour is discussed here:
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/35411386/
sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/35411386/
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16 Oct 2016 09:02 #81682
by Andreas.Schafferloh
Replied by Andreas.Schafferloh on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
Hello everybody,
I think I have the same problem. I updated recently from 2.7.x (I think 2.7.5) to 2.7.7
The last milling runs on 2.7.7 had sometimes the problem that the Z achsis suddenly went down into the workpiece. Hardware, OS and CAM software remained the same and only the linuxcnc version has changed.
(NOTE: I updated linuxcnc with apt-get; So OS had maybe got some security updates, too.)
E.g. milling program was to write a few words with a 0.6 mm cutter 1 mm deep into polycarbonate. For this I took 5 runs with 0.2mm each which worked out the last months with no problem. So after every char the machine repositions quickly and goes 0.2mm deeper but sometimes the machine goes maybe 1 inch !!! deeper into the workpiece and the collect milled the polycarbonat.
I checked to get sure the output of the CAM program but all movements related to Z achsis look absolutely fine.
Using "achsis" with a regular 3-achsis machine on a parallel port.
Cheers
-Andreas
I think I have the same problem. I updated recently from 2.7.x (I think 2.7.5) to 2.7.7
The last milling runs on 2.7.7 had sometimes the problem that the Z achsis suddenly went down into the workpiece. Hardware, OS and CAM software remained the same and only the linuxcnc version has changed.
(NOTE: I updated linuxcnc with apt-get; So OS had maybe got some security updates, too.)
E.g. milling program was to write a few words with a 0.6 mm cutter 1 mm deep into polycarbonate. For this I took 5 runs with 0.2mm each which worked out the last months with no problem. So after every char the machine repositions quickly and goes 0.2mm deeper but sometimes the machine goes maybe 1 inch !!! deeper into the workpiece and the collect milled the polycarbonat.
I checked to get sure the output of the CAM program but all movements related to Z achsis look absolutely fine.
Using "achsis" with a regular 3-achsis machine on a parallel port.
Cheers
-Andreas
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16 Oct 2016 11:25 #81687
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Random motion and lost steps after upgrade
I think it is unlikely that the changes to LinuxCNC are the cause of this:
linuxcnc.org/2016/07/31/LinuxCNC-2.7.6/
linuxcnc.org/2016/09/08/LinuxCNC-2.7.7/
Can you check that you are still using the right kernel? (uname -r command)
linuxcnc.org/2016/07/31/LinuxCNC-2.7.6/
linuxcnc.org/2016/09/08/LinuxCNC-2.7.7/
Can you check that you are still using the right kernel? (uname -r command)
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