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						08 Dec 2017 12:49				#102769
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				Hi @all,
it's WinterTime im trying to build something from my CNC for my CNC
 im trying to build something from my CNC for my CNC 
My Question: Is it possible to use this cheap Rotary Encoder www.ebay.de/itm/Drehregler-Drehgeber-Rot...e:g:pIYAAOSwn25aD28N
with LinuxCNC with a extra ParPort Card, to move my X or Y or Z Axis in diffrent Speeds like 1 / 10 / 100 seperatly?
Thanks for replys,
Fritz
					it's WinterTime
 im trying to build something from my CNC for my CNC
 im trying to build something from my CNC for my CNC 
My Question: Is it possible to use this cheap Rotary Encoder www.ebay.de/itm/Drehregler-Drehgeber-Rot...e:g:pIYAAOSwn25aD28N
with LinuxCNC with a extra ParPort Card, to move my X or Y or Z Axis in diffrent Speeds like 1 / 10 / 100 seperatly?
Thanks for replys,
Fritz
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						08 Dec 2017 14:09				#102772
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				If you mean use this for a jog control, yes you can.
They are quadrature encoders and can be read by the encoder module in LinuxCNC
Since they also have a built in push button, you could perhaps use a single one for X,Y,Z
and use the pushbutton for axis select.
Note that like all mechanical encoders these have noisy output signals and may require
filtering the quadrature signals through a RC network or using the "debounce" component
in your hal file to clean up the signals.
					They are quadrature encoders and can be read by the encoder module in LinuxCNC
Since they also have a built in push button, you could perhaps use a single one for X,Y,Z
and use the pushbutton for axis select.
Note that like all mechanical encoders these have noisy output signals and may require
filtering the quadrature signals through a RC network or using the "debounce" component
in your hal file to clean up the signals.
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						08 Dec 2017 14:14				#102773
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				Probably (if the output of it is an A-B quadrature signal, it should be pretty simple)			
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						08 Dec 2017 14:22				#102775
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				Thanks PCW, thanks Todd, nice to read your Posts.
Do you have an example?
					Do you have an example?
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						08 Dec 2017 15:00				#102777
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				For the very low level parts the hal wiring would be something like:
loadrt encoder
loadrt debounce cfg=3
addf debounce.0 base-thread
addf encoder encoder.capture-position servo-thread
addf encoder.update-counters base-thread
net rawquada parport.0.pin-10-in debounce.0.0.in
net rawquadb parport.0.pin-11-in debounce.0.1.in
net rawjogbutton parport.0.pin-12-in debounce.0.2.in
net cleanquada debounce.0.0.out encoder.0.phase-A
net cleanquadb debounce.0.1.out encoder.0.phase-B
net jogbutton debounce.0.2.out
					loadrt encoder
loadrt debounce cfg=3
addf debounce.0 base-thread
addf encoder encoder.capture-position servo-thread
addf encoder.update-counters base-thread
net rawquada parport.0.pin-10-in debounce.0.0.in
net rawquadb parport.0.pin-11-in debounce.0.1.in
net rawjogbutton parport.0.pin-12-in debounce.0.2.in
net cleanquada debounce.0.0.out encoder.0.phase-A
net cleanquadb debounce.0.1.out encoder.0.phase-B
net jogbutton debounce.0.2.out
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						08 Dec 2017 17:49				#102786
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				@PCW i don't know how to handle this :/
I tried out this example from andypugh forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/637...for-my-mill-how#6377
it works but only with one Phase, don't understand why.
it also works only in one direction, The Button works also not.
When i test it with an Arduino it works all fine...
I have TB6560 4-Axis red Board where the Pins 10-13 are available, so i tought this must work... hmmmm...
					I tried out this example from andypugh forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/637...for-my-mill-how#6377
it works but only with one Phase, don't understand why.
it also works only in one direction, The Button works also not.
When i test it with an Arduino it works all fine...
I have TB6560 4-Axis red Board where the Pins 10-13 are available, so i tought this must work... hmmmm...
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						08 Dec 2017 19:24				#102790
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				Some fixes done.
I found, under a lot other things, thsi Panasonic Encoder
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panaso...16B/P12423-ND/637160
Following steps are working:
Push Button to select the Axis to move and Movement in + Direction but not - Direction
					I found, under a lot other things, thsi Panasonic Encoder
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panaso...16B/P12423-ND/637160
Following steps are working:
Push Button to select the Axis to move and Movement in + Direction but not - Direction
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						08 Dec 2017 20:01				#102792
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				If you setp encoder.N.counter-mode 1, would explain your problems, set that to 0 (or leave that line out entirely as 0 is the default setting).
Here is what the man page for the software encoder says:
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
encoder.N.counter-mode bit i/o Enables counter mode. When true, the counter counts each rising edge of the phase-A input, ignoring the value on phase-B. This is useful for counting the output of a single channel (non-quadrature) sensor. When false (the default), it counts in quadrature mode.
					Here is what the man page for the software encoder says:
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
encoder.N.counter-mode bit i/o Enables counter mode. When true, the counter counts each rising edge of the phase-A input, ignoring the value on phase-B. This is useful for counting the output of a single channel (non-quadrature) sensor. When false (the default), it counts in quadrature mode.
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						08 Dec 2017 20:07				#102794
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				coool  now it works fine, thanks Todd.
 now it works fine, thanks Todd.  
			
					 now it works fine, thanks Todd.
 now it works fine, thanks Todd.  
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						09 Dec 2017 20:42				#102847
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				Now i have my second parallel card on the run *lucky  . Is it possible to run an encoder on the first card, say with me on the controller, and run the second encoder on the second card? I would like to work with the first encoder as the stand is now and with the second encoder enter the step size, for example: 1/10/100
. Is it possible to run an encoder on the first card, say with me on the controller, and run the second encoder on the second card? I would like to work with the first encoder as the stand is now and with the second encoder enter the step size, for example: 1/10/100
How do I combine the two encoders? I tried to read in the docs, but as a beginner I'm not really right there. are there any examples for this?
Regards Fritz
					 . Is it possible to run an encoder on the first card, say with me on the controller, and run the second encoder on the second card? I would like to work with the first encoder as the stand is now and with the second encoder enter the step size, for example: 1/10/100
. Is it possible to run an encoder on the first card, say with me on the controller, and run the second encoder on the second card? I would like to work with the first encoder as the stand is now and with the second encoder enter the step size, for example: 1/10/100How do I combine the two encoders? I tried to read in the docs, but as a beginner I'm not really right there. are there any examples for this?
Regards Fritz
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