Rotary Encoder

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08 Dec 2017 12:49 #102769 by Tchefter
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Hi @all,
it's WinterTime :) im trying to build something from my CNC for my CNC :)
My Question: Is it possible to use this cheap Rotary Encoder www.ebay.de/itm/Drehregler-Drehgeber-Rot...e:g:pIYAAOSwn25aD28N
with LinuxCNC with a extra ParPort Card, to move my X or Y or Z Axis in diffrent Speeds like 1 / 10 / 100 seperatly?

Thanks for replys,

Fritz

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08 Dec 2017 14:09 #102772 by PCW
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If you mean use this for a jog control, yes you can.
They are quadrature encoders and can be read by the encoder module in LinuxCNC

Since they also have a built in push button, you could perhaps use a single one for X,Y,Z
and use the pushbutton for axis select.

Note that like all mechanical encoders these have noisy output signals and may require
filtering the quadrature signals through a RC network or using the "debounce" component
in your hal file to clean up the signals.

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08 Dec 2017 14:14 #102773 by Todd Zuercher
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Probably (if the output of it is an A-B quadrature signal, it should be pretty simple)

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08 Dec 2017 14:22 #102775 by Tchefter
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Thanks PCW, thanks Todd, nice to read your Posts.
Do you have an example?

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08 Dec 2017 15:00 #102777 by PCW
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For the very low level parts the hal wiring would be something like:

loadrt encoder
loadrt debounce cfg=3

addf debounce.0 base-thread
addf encoder encoder.capture-position servo-thread
addf encoder.update-counters base-thread

net rawquada parport.0.pin-10-in debounce.0.0.in
net rawquadb parport.0.pin-11-in debounce.0.1.in
net rawjogbutton parport.0.pin-12-in debounce.0.2.in

net cleanquada debounce.0.0.out encoder.0.phase-A
net cleanquadb debounce.0.1.out encoder.0.phase-B
net jogbutton debounce.0.2.out
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08 Dec 2017 17:49 #102786 by Tchefter
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@PCW i don't know how to handle this :/
I tried out this example from andypugh forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/637...for-my-mill-how#6377
it works but only with one Phase, don't understand why.
it also works only in one direction, The Button works also not.
When i test it with an Arduino it works all fine...

I have TB6560 4-Axis red Board where the Pins 10-13 are available, so i tought this must work... hmmmm...

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08 Dec 2017 19:24 #102790 by Tchefter
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Some fixes done.
I found, under a lot other things, thsi Panasonic Encoder
www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panaso...16B/P12423-ND/637160

Following steps are working:
Push Button to select the Axis to move and Movement in + Direction but not - Direction

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08 Dec 2017 20:01 #102792 by Todd Zuercher
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If you setp encoder.N.counter-mode 1, would explain your problems, set that to 0 (or leave that line out entirely as 0 is the default setting).

Here is what the man page for the software encoder says:
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
encoder.N.counter-mode bit i/o Enables counter mode. When true, the counter counts each rising edge of the phase-A input, ignoring the value on phase-B. This is useful for counting the output of a single channel (non-quadrature) sensor. When false (the default), it counts in quadrature mode.
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08 Dec 2017 20:07 #102794 by Tchefter
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coool :) now it works fine, thanks Todd. :)

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09 Dec 2017 20:42 #102847 by Tchefter
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Now i have my second parallel card on the run *lucky :). Is it possible to run an encoder on the first card, say with me on the controller, and run the second encoder on the second card? I would like to work with the first encoder as the stand is now and with the second encoder enter the step size, for example: 1/10/100
How do I combine the two encoders? I tried to read in the docs, but as a beginner I'm not really right there. are there any examples for this?

Regards Fritz

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