Internationalization: The Spanish affair

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Hi to the whole team.
This is my very first post. It will not be the last.
First, but very important: I can understand English and read it without a dictionary. The bad news is that I do not write it or speak it ... well ... just a little. The Spaniards and the languages ​​are water and oil. Anyway ... I do not speak Thai
Google Translate is my biggest friend

I have successfully downloaded and compiled the master branch from git. I have installed all the dependencies that I need and my RIP installation works correctly.

Now, the issue.
The current translation attempt (internationalization is a better word) of LinuxCNC to Spanish is just an "attempt". Horrible, incomplete, erroneous .......... and apparently abandoned. I want to solve that situation.

I'm using poedit, a .po file editor, and the "make" way. I already have more than 30% translated. Samples attached.



I have two doubts:
Should I follow the original keyboard shortcuts? In English, many words with a shortcut letter have no equivalent word (with the same letter) in Spanish.

Second. Are some text hard-coded?. For example, the instance of the word "CURRENT:" in Configuration Selector bar title, does not appear in my poedit list. What is the way to do it in this case? Report to developers? Rewrite sources and recompile? I don't know.

I agree that the correct site for this matter is the developer IRC or the mailing list, but I would like to have more work done.

Thanks for your patience.
Best regards

Thanks for your words, Andy

It seems that Python is a must for the current linuxcnc user interfaces.
I have worked a lot with microcontrollers. Assembler and C / C++ are very familiar to me but I never learned python.
Anyway, it seems a very friendly language, it is very well documented and the number of libraries is impressive (including third-party libraries)
I continue with the translation work. Next stop ... developer team

Thanks again and good track days

• abu wrote:

  Assembler and C / C++ are very familiar to me but I never learned python.
  Anyway, it seems a very friendly language, it is very well documented and the number of libraries is impressive (including third-party libraries)

  
  Google has a very good Python tutorial (in English) based on one of their internal courses. It contains the coursework and a number of videos.
  developers.google.com/edu/python/
  I'm quite sure I did not watch it all (because I was impatient to get stuff done), but it was very helpful to me with a similar coding background to you.

rodw wrote:

Google has a very good Python tutorial (in English) based on one of their internal courses. It contains the coursework and a number of videos.
developers.google.com/edu/python/
I'm quite sure I did not watch it all (because I was impatient to get stuff done), but it was very helpful to me with a similar coding background to you.

Thanks for your link, Rod

At the moment I am studying the official documentation (www.python.org) I like the genuine docs. Longest but deepest learning curve.

An interesting detail: Jeff Epler appears in Python credits

Very grateful anyway

@Hi Abu,

Should I follow the original keyboard shortcuts? In English, many words with a shortcut letter have no equivalent word (with the same letter) in Spanish.
It's to you. Maybe you can make a spanisch comment. But when your translation is merged into official version, you can look at polish version's to compare what the possibilities are.

Are some text hard-coded?
Yes, sure, a option is to use a variable function for translating, but i think if spanish learn a little bit englisch it's also good for them.

Hallo Abu,

the items you mentioned was exactly the reason, why i separated the translation files from gmoccapy gui from the huge linuxcnc.po file. So i am able to react more flexible for translation wishes. I actually mantain the spanish, english and german localisations of that gui, but i am German and Spanish is just a secondary knowladge. So if you like to take a look at that part of my work, i would appreciate that.

Norbert

newbynobi wrote:

Hallo Abu,

....... So if you like to take a look at that part of my work, i would appreciate that.

Norbert

Sure, Norbert!

Gmoccapy will not be an "outlaw" for me, but first I want to have enough knowledge of the "Python point of view" on LinuxCNC.
My progress is reasonably fast: the basics are learned (well ... I think ) and I begin to understand the Python/C API
The work in gmoccapy will be done in its right moment, I hope

Nice to hear you are working in get a better Spanish translation(I´m Spanish too).
If you need some help do not hesitate to tell me.

kind regards.

PD: Muchas gracias por tu esfuerzo.
Un saludo.

Hi, aer73

The probability theory tells me that the probability of winning a bet to get an ace in a roll of dice is less than the probability that a "73" and "Tomas" and "Spanish" and "interested in CNC" will not is related to Tomy73 ............. I'm wrong?