Tool not showing correctly 2.7.14

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02 Sep 2018 02:43 #116966 by berntd
In lathe mode I cannot get the tool to show or show correctly.

It just shows the triangle arrow or nothing.

When I first used it after installing, I was sort of able to see the tool correctly.
Suddenly it stopped and no matter what, I cannot get it to work again.

I have tool 1 3mm diameter.
It used to show nicely as a circle.

I then had angles 90 and 90.
Even that showed correctly as a half round tool.

The orientations never worked as per documentation though.

Right now it does no longer work at all

What can I do?

Regards
Bernt

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02 Sep 2018 02:45 #116967 by berntd
A screenshot.
No tool visible.
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02 Sep 2018 13:26 #116973 by Todd Zuercher
Your Axis screen shows that you have no tool loaded at the bottom of the screen. You need to load a tool with T1 M6.

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02 Sep 2018 21:44 #116994 by berntd
Yes, but that is not it. The program does load the tool. It just was not because I reset it before the screenshot.

It all has to do with the tool orientations in that tool table by the look of it.It is just not working correctly at all.

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06 Sep 2018 12:40 - 06 Sep 2018 12:41 #117149 by andypugh
if front and back angles are identical then you have a zero-angle tool which will be rendered as a line of zero width.

Angles are measured clockwise from the Z axis, so a typical CNMG holder will be frontangle 85 backangle 5
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06 Sep 2018 21:40 #117170 by berntd
It must not show a zero width with a 3mm diameter!
It must show a 3mm wide tool with half round at the top. And it did that quite correctly at the beginning.

It also showed a round 3mm circle when no angles were entered but it does not show any of that any more.

I did get it to show a circle again yesterday when I set the orientation to 9. ????

There is something wrong with this but without help I cannot figure it out.
It certainly does not work for me as described in the documentation.

Regards
Bernt

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07 Sep 2018 12:12 #117180 by verticalperformance
Just tried this out on 2.7.14
T0 M6. I get the default cone.
T1 M6. I get a parallel tool with a radius on the end (it's a parting tool) (orient=1)

T10 M6. I get the triangle representing a typ outside sharp tool (orient=2)

T40 M6. I get the triangle representing a typ sharp boring tool (orient=3)


So it still seems to be working as I think it should (and I think Bernt thinks too!) in 2.7.14 for me at least.
Toggling Show Tool on and off do anything?
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07 Sep 2018 21:30 #117206 by berntd
Great going!!
I got the same results at the beginning.
I then changed the orient value as I need my tool centre (centre of the radius circle) to be the tool reference. Just like a mill cutter.

I cycled through the orientations and the reference point changed left front right etc.

Then it all disapeared and that was it.

I found orientation 9 to give a round circle with centre reference. That would work for me for this tool. I just need to get it to work again.

No change turning the show tool on/off.

Please see my other thread on the offset / touch off. It may be related.

Regards
Bernt

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11 Sep 2018 00:22 #117316 by OT-CNC

No change turning the show tool on/off.


Are you zoomed in enough too see it? I tried adding a 1/8 diameter tool and initially didn't see it. It should be in the center of the XZ arrows on the screen when the tool is loaded.

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