EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
13 Oct 2018 00:32 #118732
by Rick4004
Replied by Rick4004 on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
Yes it was the dmesg from right after the top, but not the whole thing, just the last part. Once I saw
[30828.116146] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[30828.116151] This Message will only display once per session.
[30828.116154] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
I thought that the RTAPI: ERROR was a problem.
Should I repost the whole dmesg?
[30828.116146] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[30828.116151] This Message will only display once per session.
[30828.116154] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
I thought that the RTAPI: ERROR was a problem.
Should I repost the whole dmesg?
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14 Oct 2018 16:42 #118778
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
Unexpected realtime delay is an error, but not a fatal one.
It doesn't explain the symptoms.
It doesn't explain the symptoms.
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14 Oct 2018 20:24 #118796
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
Did you by any chance change the computer cable or machine cable or the socket that they were plugged in ?
Might be there is no ground to the computer or machine so they are not on the same potential level.
Or there is something causing spikes on the parallel port inputs.
Might be there is no ground to the computer or machine so they are not on the same potential level.
Or there is something causing spikes on the parallel port inputs.
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14 Oct 2018 21:30 #118801
by Rick4004
Replied by Rick4004 on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
I tried putting the hard drive in a different computer, didn't fix the problem.
I opened up the box containing the breakout board, and Gecko drivers. Checked all connections. Found a loose "direction" connection on the Z axis. Didn't fix the problem.
I tried running the program without power to the steppers, and was able to run the full program.
All three axii are powered by individual power supplies, so I am in the process of seeing if I can isolate the problem to one drive.
With Z disconnected, X & Y powered the program stopped.
With Y disconnected, X & Z powered the program ran.
And as I am typing this, with X disconnected, Y & Z powered, the program stopped.
So, I think the problem is somewhere in the Y drive.
I'll try changing X and Y drivers/power supplies etc. and see if I can figure out what's wrong.
Thanks for the replies.
Rick
I opened up the box containing the breakout board, and Gecko drivers. Checked all connections. Found a loose "direction" connection on the Z axis. Didn't fix the problem.
I tried running the program without power to the steppers, and was able to run the full program.
All three axii are powered by individual power supplies, so I am in the process of seeing if I can isolate the problem to one drive.
With Z disconnected, X & Y powered the program stopped.
With Y disconnected, X & Z powered the program ran.
And as I am typing this, with X disconnected, Y & Z powered, the program stopped.
So, I think the problem is somewhere in the Y drive.
I'll try changing X and Y drivers/power supplies etc. and see if I can figure out what's wrong.
Thanks for the replies.
Rick
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14 Oct 2018 21:33 #118802
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
This is a completly different machine and software, but a strange problem with my 3D printer was caused by a broken stepper motor wire.
The printer would lose serial comms when the Y axis was in a particular place. It turned out that in this position a break in the X axis stepper wires was wobbled.
So, the problem might be in a different axis, but made evident at certain Y positions.
The printer would lose serial comms when the Y axis was in a particular place. It turned out that in this position a break in the X axis stepper wires was wobbled.
So, the problem might be in a different axis, but made evident at certain Y positions.
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15 Oct 2018 21:23 #118847
by Rick4004
Replied by Rick4004 on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
So, I've swapped combinations of drives/power supplies, and axii around and all fingers point toward a bad stepper drive. The problem follows the drive. I contacted Gecko and they agree that it sounds like a bad drive, but they have no idea what kind of problem would cause the software to shut off.
Is there any explanation that I could give them?
Thanks
Rick
Is there any explanation that I could give them?
Thanks
Rick
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15 Oct 2018 21:33 #118849
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic EMC randomly shutting off (Toggle F2)
Have you tried swapping stepper cables? (if any of them move during work)
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