Upgraded 2.6>2.7.14, tool offset issue

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24 Apr 2019 23:30 - 24 Apr 2019 23:32 #131809 by lukepighetti
Hey all. Haven’t changed my setup except upgrading. May be a config issue.

Before: touch off with any tool, program calls a tool change, the offset stays the same. In other words, the tool offset was constant (zero?)

Now: put in a tool, touch off spoilboard, run program, asks to change the tool (the one I touched off), I click okay, it changes the offset

Even worse: touch off, set z to 0.010”, dro says it’s 0.7720”. Have to restart LinuxCNC to clear whatever offset is causing this issue.

Active gcodes when touchoff isn’t working as expected: g1,10,17,40,20,90,94,54,43,99,64,97,91.1,8
M5,9,48,53,0
F162
Last edit: 24 Apr 2019 23:32 by lukepighetti.

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24 Apr 2019 23:44 #131813 by lukepighetti
Alright, it appears that the default tool table has tools with offsets. Yikes! Tried deleting all the tools and now it gives me an error that a tool can’t be found in the table. In 2.6 this would fail gracefully, no? I use compensation in post processing instead of the tool table. Any insights as to best practices here? This is a cnc router with manual tool change.

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24 Apr 2019 23:52 - 25 Apr 2019 00:04 #131814 by Grotius
Luke,

Find in the Gmoccapy directory a standard config file for a standard tool file "tool.tbl".
Try this file and if no error is displaying and the tool table will load you are on the good way !
Tool.tbl files can be fragile when modified by user !

This is inside my tool.tbl file to load plasma amp's
T1 P1 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0 A0.0 B0.0 C0.0 U0.0 V0.0 W0.0 D0.0 I0.0 J0.0 Q0.0 ;10 Amp 
T2 P2 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0 A0.0 B0.0 C0.0 U0.0 V0.0 W0.0 D0.0 I0.0 J0.0 Q0.0 ;25 Amps 
T3 P3 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0 A0.0 B0.0 C0.0 U0.0 V0.0 W0.0 D0.0 I0.0 J0.0 Q0.0 ;40 amp

Inside a standard Gmoccapy file you will find :
T1 P1 D4.500000 Z-2.667780 ;4.5 mm 3 flute cutter
T2 P2 D25.000000 Z-17.295477 ;25 mm cutter
T3 P3 D7.500000 Z+1.229786 ;7.5 mm 3 flute cutter
T4 P4 D4.000000 Z-10.256000 ;4 mm Drill
T5 P5 D5.000000 Z-10.254000 ;5 mm Drill
T6 P6 D6.000000 Z-11.120000 ;6 mm Carbide burr
T7 P7 D6.500000 Z-14.589000 ;6.5 mm HSS burr
T8 P8 D12.000000 Z-14.458000 ;Cutter with 2 faces
T9 P9 D16.000000 Z-16.527474 ;Cutter with 3 faces
T10 P10 D165.000000 Z-12.112000 ;Facer with carbide inserts
T11 P11 D10.000000 Z-14.258000 ;Centering drill
T12 P12 D4.000000 Z+13.214000 ;3d taster elektronisch
T13 P13 D13.000000 Z-14.388000 ;3-Schneider Schaftfräser
T14 P14 D10.000000 Z-12.256000 ;3 Schneiden Stufenbohrer 5.5 auf 10
T15 P15 D10.000000 Z-14.888000 ;Bohrer TiN beschichtet
T16 P16 D12.500000 Z-14.583000 ;Stufenbohrer 6.8 auf 12.5 - 3 Schneiden
T17 P17 D6.500000 Z-14.254000 ;Stufenbohrer 4.2 auf 6.5 mit 45 Grad Übergang
T18 P18 D4.000000 Z-16.595000 ;Schaftfräser 4 Schneider
T19 P19 D11.000000 Z-15.235000 ;Bohrer
T20 P20 D50.100000 Z-16.235000 ;Messerkopf 4 Platten
T21 P21 D7.800000 Z-14.587000 ;Bohrer poliert
T22 P22 D16.150000 Z-18.253000 ;Messerkopf Zweischneider
T23 P23 D3.300000 Z-14.254000 ;Bohrer poliert
T24 P24 D12.020000 Z-14.256000 ;Fräser nachgeschliffen, nicht beschichtet

This must work without complaining.
Last edit: 25 Apr 2019 00:04 by Grotius.

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25 Apr 2019 02:22 #131824 by lukepighetti
Thanks! From what I can tell I need a tool table with every possible number I will ever use with a zero z offset. Is that correct? I don’t remember having to do that in 2.6.

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25 Apr 2019 02:49 - 25 Apr 2019 02:55 #131827 by Grotius
If you write a tool table inside of linuxcnc your output will be just like my plasma tool.tbl
It's made not by me, but by linuxcnc. B)
Have fun !

I used this tool table before for testing purposes. If i could help you with it. It's nice !
If you have no error step one is done !

Second step to do :
If you write your own new tool table in linux you will find out your offsets.
Last edit: 25 Apr 2019 02:55 by Grotius.

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25 Apr 2019 16:42 #131867 by Mike_Eitel
If you have T8 M8
you need that tool 8 . All other values can be 0 but with 0mm diameter you will not see a tool in preview. So better set them all f.x. to 4mm to have them visible.
Mike

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