Changing tools in linuxcnc and Fusion360
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26 Jun 2019 06:39 #137865
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After a few months of paying with my 6040cnc machine i decided to try and ramp up the level of my cam programs.
So, i tried making a V inlay engraving.
The female side went well, but the make side, was, and still, confusing for me.
I used 6mm Flat mill to mill out the paramiter of my shape and then planed using a 90° V_bit for the final shape.
I think my Cam is good, but i'm having trouble replacing tools during operation.
How can i change to the V_bit and zero it's Z_axis without exiting the program?
I have a very basic chinese controll board and no zero axis plate.
I'm using Fusion 360 for the CAD and Cam, and LinuxCNC as post proccesor for the machine.
Any advise or tips will be much appreciated.
Thank's
Shahar
So, i tried making a V inlay engraving.
The female side went well, but the make side, was, and still, confusing for me.
I used 6mm Flat mill to mill out the paramiter of my shape and then planed using a 90° V_bit for the final shape.
I think my Cam is good, but i'm having trouble replacing tools during operation.
How can i change to the V_bit and zero it's Z_axis without exiting the program?
I have a very basic chinese controll board and no zero axis plate.
I'm using Fusion 360 for the CAD and Cam, and LinuxCNC as post proccesor for the machine.
Any advise or tips will be much appreciated.
Thank's
Shahar
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26 Jun 2019 07:40 #137868
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Hi welcome
Firsat
there is best practice to handle things on 6040
USE for every bit you got a separate FILE
part_x_6mmbit
part_x_vbit90
part_x_vbit60
part_x_xxxxx
YOU can add also a ORDER Letter
like part_X_A_6mm
B,C,D
THIS can be done in Fusion360 FILE per Operation in settings
USE order is a option
THEN
you can use a simple TOOL Zeroing Routine and work like that my YT
here it is a wood engrave with 4 files and bits
Firsat
there is best practice to handle things on 6040
USE for every bit you got a separate FILE
part_x_6mmbit
part_x_vbit90
part_x_vbit60
part_x_xxxxx
YOU can add also a ORDER Letter
like part_X_A_6mm
B,C,D
THIS can be done in Fusion360 FILE per Operation in settings
USE order is a option
THEN
you can use a simple TOOL Zeroing Routine and work like that my YT
here it is a wood engrave with 4 files and bits
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26 Jun 2019 09:18 - 26 Jun 2019 09:19 #137873
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You can't. You can't pause a running program, work manually and then unpause the program.
One file per tool is one alternative.
Having the tools all measured up and just change them is another, if the spindle has that type of chucking.
Use a tool length probe and automatically measure the tool length at tool change time is another.
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How can i change to the V_bit and zero it's Z_axis without exiting the program?
You can't. You can't pause a running program, work manually and then unpause the program.
One file per tool is one alternative.
Having the tools all measured up and just change them is another, if the spindle has that type of chucking.
Use a tool length probe and automatically measure the tool length at tool change time is another.
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27 Jun 2019 13:20 #137998
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Another thing you could do is make sure M1 optional stops are placed in the gcode before each section. This is an option in the Fusion post processor. Then activate Optional Stops in the linuxcnc gui. When the program pauses after a section, stop the program, do your tool change and re-zero, then restart where you left off. However, having said all that, the best option is to make a separate file for each tool. As for v-carving, there are some good tutorials on youtube. These generally refer to Aspire but the principles are the same. HTH
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27 Jun 2019 23:43 #138054
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I have a pneumatic drawbar and repeatable-length tooling (BT30) but I still generally use one file per tool.
If you are changing tools by hand then switching to the next file is only a little more work and adds a lot of flexibility.
For example, perhaps you want to make 3 parts op-by-op not tool-by-tool. You can't do that with all the ops in one file. (well, unless you are prepared to gamble with the slightly unpredictable operation of run-from-line)
If you are changing tools by hand then switching to the next file is only a little more work and adds a lot of flexibility.
For example, perhaps you want to make 3 parts op-by-op not tool-by-tool. You can't do that with all the ops in one file. (well, unless you are prepared to gamble with the slightly unpredictable operation of run-from-line)
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02 Jul 2019 06:41 #138375
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Thank's for the advise.
I sapose you zero the machine over again for every tool?
I sapose you zero the machine over again for every tool?
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02 Jul 2019 06:48 #138377
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Since i don't know how to connect a z zero plate to my machine, i thought making a simple jig for measuring tools, that way i can mark every tool for the same stickout (20mm for exemple), and that way i can set the tools in the CAM with a set stickout and rely on that for z hifht when changing tools between operations.
Do you think these solutions can work?
Do you think these solutions can work?
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02 Jul 2019 09:53 #138387
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What type of spindle do you have?
The integral ER style spindle noses really are a pretty terrible idea for CNC.
Solid shrink-fit collets do exist, though they are not cheap: www.cutwel.co.uk/tool-holding/tool-holde...fit-collet-er20-bilz
No reason you couldn't make your own, though. Induction heaters have become very cheap: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183042731885 or for rather more there are lots of induction heaters for freeing bolts that would do the trick.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312627236524
Of course you can _fit_ the tools with just a blowtorch, but removing them probably works better with induction as it will somewhat ignore the carbide.
Fitting a setting collar to each tool might work, as might making a set of end-stops to fit in the cavity behind the collet. (or maybe a single end-stop sized for the smallest shank?)
The integral ER style spindle noses really are a pretty terrible idea for CNC.
Solid shrink-fit collets do exist, though they are not cheap: www.cutwel.co.uk/tool-holding/tool-holde...fit-collet-er20-bilz
No reason you couldn't make your own, though. Induction heaters have become very cheap: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183042731885 or for rather more there are lots of induction heaters for freeing bolts that would do the trick.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312627236524
Of course you can _fit_ the tools with just a blowtorch, but removing them probably works better with induction as it will somewhat ignore the carbide.
Fitting a setting collar to each tool might work, as might making a set of end-stops to fit in the cavity behind the collet. (or maybe a single end-stop sized for the smallest shank?)
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