7i92 and china bob - beginner problems?

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08 Oct 2021 21:26 #222586 by minimal3d
7i92 and china bob - beginner problems? was created by minimal3d
Hello dear linuxcnc community,

i've just registered here and first like to say hello. 
I'm working with CNC as a hobby mostly and have a small router using GRBL and Arduino as controller.
It's working fine and i'm happy with it so far. But now i'm building a bigger vertical 3 axis CNC for milling slots in window frames and i'd like to have a more robust, professional and faster controller.

The machine is quite simple: 3 motors (JMC servos), 3 limit switches and a water cooled 1.5 kW spindle. The mechanics are some bosch CKK linear modules. So i've chosen linuxcnc and just bought a 7i92M ethernet card. 
LinuxCNC is running fine on a thin client and and talks already with the mesa card. As interface i use a chinese bob. (www.longs-motor.com/breakout-board.html)
I flashed the .bit file to the mesa card for the 5ABOB from: forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/30210-mesa-7i92-bit-file

Now my problem: the X-motor runs already on Pin 2 (step) Pin 3 (dir). (wired NPN, so 5V to PUL+ and PUL- to Pin 2)
However the other motors don't. I've attached a probe to Pin 4 (step y) and there are steps coming to the JMC, however i don't seem to get 5V, signals but something lower. More like 1-2V. 
I'm not sure as i'm no electronics specialist, maybe the BOB is defective? I've ordered a 7i78 already for further testing.

Best regards,
minimal3d

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08 Oct 2021 22:28 #222595 by tommylight
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If you want to isolate machine from the electronics that BOB will require two separate power supplies of 5V each and setting the jumpers on it. By default it comes wired for one supply only so has no isolation at all.
The good thing is it is one of very few BOB's fully isolated (when set as) but the bad thing is the optocouplers on it are very slow, so setting very long timings in LinuxCNC is a must, 10000 for step time and space for reliable work, and that defeats the main reason for using Mesa 7i92 = speed!
If you feel comfortable wiring things, i would get rid of the BOB, but beware that Mesa IO are very sensitive so any miss wiring will destroy it.

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08 Oct 2021 23:25 #222609 by minimal3d
Replied by minimal3d on topic 7i92 and china bob - beginner problems?
Hello tommylight,

thank you for the kind answer:
I will now definitely wait some days for the 7i78 to arrive and replace the china bob by it. 
(I don't plan to wire anything directly to the 7i92: i already know how easy it is to break something...)

Best regards,
minimal3d
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08 Oct 2021 23:38 #222611 by tommylight
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Not of any help to you but i do have 4 cnc plasma machines using 7i92 directly wired to stepper drives and relays and THCAD, all of them in use daily. THCAD has some 7 to 8 meters of shielded cable going to 7i92 inputs.

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09 Oct 2021 09:38 #222626 by minimal3d
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Hello,

all the motors turn now.
What i wrote prior was nonsense as i'm a complete newbie with linuxcnc...
The hal file had just all the step timings set too low for Y,Z.
The china bob was then removed and motors wired directly to the 7i92. (picture attached)

Best regards,
minimal3d
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09 Oct 2021 10:02 #222627 by tommylight
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Nice ! :)

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