Material overview, wiring over view, and suggestions please

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07 Sep 2022 21:25 #251442 by Aldenflorio
I have built two plasma machines, the first one because I wanted to do metal working and didn’t have enough money. I realized I could do a much better job, so I sold it and used that money to make a better table. But I wasn’t satisfied. I sold that one and I want to make a great table.

I’m attaching a spread sheet of the electronics, and hardware I am using or plan on using. I at the bottom there is a room for improvement number as well. Please feel free to download the spreadsheet and upgrade things within that number. I want to use better components but I’m not sure which sites are legit and which aren’t. I have most of my things from Amazon just because it’s fast.

along with that I have a VERY basic step by step of wiring for the machine. im Sure I messed up some places, and I don’t know what kind or fuses or resistors to use. So please feel free to edit that.

you can also of course drop your suggestions down below. Thank you!!!




docs.google.com/presentation/d/10AUt24bO...T53mwfOj9KA48qw/edit


docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11eXPo2dd...rSzyX5pDd9XAxqk/edit

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07 Sep 2022 23:25 #251449 by tommylight
Access denied on both! :)
Just the option of leaving a message there.

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08 Sep 2022 02:09 #251459 by Aldenflorio
Okay, I’m trying to find a way to upload it

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08 Sep 2022 10:03 #251475 by Aldenflorio
I think I fixed the links! Try again!

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08 Sep 2022 16:35 #251506 by tommylight
Wiring diagram:
Page 5 power supply side wrong terminals, please do not wire Mesa boards to L and N terminals, ever.
Page 6 THCAD requires 5V to operate, not 12V, so wire this also to the encoder header on Mesa. Plasma pins 3 and 4 go to Mesa "spindle enable" output, not field outputs. To use field outputs a relay would be needed.
The rest looks ok as far as i can tell from a quick glance.

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08 Sep 2022 18:03 #251512 by Aldenflorio
Oops that was a my bad. I fixed it. You can edit the slide and add comments to the spread sheet if you please.

i have 2 12V. The first is suppose to be field power. I have been told the more voltage you can send the proximity sensors the better bc it counteracts noise. The second is to power the fan, the board, thc, and the e-stop.

should I get a 5v and a 12v instead. Keeping the 12 for the proximity sensors and the fan, then using the 5v for the board and THC? Which should I wire the e-stop to?

do you have any suggestions on the spreed sheet? 

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09 Sep 2022 10:24 #251541 by rodw
I'd probably use a mains powered fan as there are some nice industrial ones with matching vents..
the standard voltage to use is 24v. You only need about 2 amps. Small din rail mounted ones are nice and compact.
The THCAD can use 5v power from the Mesa card. There are pins with the encode to use for this.

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09 Sep 2022 23:06 #251580 by Aldenflorio
What do you mean by main powered fan? I think I fixed the 5th slide, how does it look now?

any other suggestions on what I’m planning on buying? I have $700 to make sure everything is a good as I can get it. The links are on the spreadsheet. Please give everything a look over

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10 Sep 2022 01:25 #251590 by rodw

What do you mean by main powered fan? I think I fixed the 5th slide, how does it look now?
 

Mains power = 240v AC here

Fans need a fair bit of power so it does not really make sense to run them off DC voltage as it just means you need a lot bigger power supply than otherwise required. Here is an industrial one I used.

Fan inside
 
Fan outside
 

Matching vent
 
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10 Sep 2022 01:42 #251592 by Aldenflorio
What do you think about this one?

www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/ca...A4TByyEaAvQLEALw_wcB

would that require me to get another or separate power supply? What do you think about my other components in the google sheets? I would like to make the machine with the best components possible with my budget. The overall budget is 7k after taxes

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