Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist
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						25 Oct 2022 04:47				#254992
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Hi All,Newbie here. I'm slowly getting my head around linuxcnc and I just found an issue when using pncf to setup the mesa 7i96s when enabling outputs 4 or 5. I couldn't find any info out there about my issue, so..... for the other newbies out there....... if you want to use outputs 4 or 5 and you are getting an error (something like ssr.04 or ssr.05 doesn't exist) when starting your machine program.
Open the machines hal file and find the lines where the outputs are and replace 'ssr' in the outputs name with 'outm'. Problem is you will have to change it each time you make a change with pncf. If you open hal show you will see that there is a ssr (solid state relay) and a outm (?) section listed under the 7i96s card list. In there you'll see 0-3 in ssr and 4,5 in outm. See the attached pic for some guidance.
For the experienced people on here, I'm just wondering if someone could spare the time to tell me how it works? PleaseI take it this fault is probably related to my version linuxcnc 2.9 not listing the 7i96s card under pncf and that 7i96 has ssr hardware on outputs 4 and 5, any idea? Can anyone tell me if the 7i96s has been added to the list yet? Pncf doesn't read anything directly from the card does it.?
					
	
	
		
			
			 		
													
	
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			Hi All,Newbie here. I'm slowly getting my head around linuxcnc and I just found an issue when using pncf to setup the mesa 7i96s when enabling outputs 4 or 5. I couldn't find any info out there about my issue, so..... for the other newbies out there....... if you want to use outputs 4 or 5 and you are getting an error (something like ssr.04 or ssr.05 doesn't exist) when starting your machine program.
Open the machines hal file and find the lines where the outputs are and replace 'ssr' in the outputs name with 'outm'. Problem is you will have to change it each time you make a change with pncf. If you open hal show you will see that there is a ssr (solid state relay) and a outm (?) section listed under the 7i96s card list. In there you'll see 0-3 in ssr and 4,5 in outm. See the attached pic for some guidance.
For the experienced people on here, I'm just wondering if someone could spare the time to tell me how it works? PleaseI take it this fault is probably related to my version linuxcnc 2.9 not listing the 7i96s card under pncf and that 7i96 has ssr hardware on outputs 4 and 5, any idea? Can anyone tell me if the 7i96s has been added to the list yet? Pncf doesn't read anything directly from the card does it.?
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						25 Oct 2022 05:34				#254993
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				Replied by phillc54 on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				PnCconf in the current 2.9 branch supports the 7i96s, I just ran up a config and it appears to work correctly.			
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						25 Oct 2022 05:46				#254994
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				Replied by kazafog on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				thanks phillc54, I will have to connect the pc up to the internet and update it. After I work out how update it.			
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						25 Oct 2022 08:25				#255001
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				Replied by kazafog on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				I just tried to update to the latest on github (it appeared to be successful).
But I cannot select 7i96s as a board name and when I run the config as 7i96 outputs 4 and 5 are still ssr types in the hal file. Should the 7i96s 'board name' now be an option?
The PC isn't connected to the 7i96s so I haven't tried the discovery option, however, that was a fail the last time I tried on the last v2.9 build I had (that I installed within the last 3 weeks), for some reason only some of the IO was accessible after discovery.
What am I missing??
					But I cannot select 7i96s as a board name and when I run the config as 7i96 outputs 4 and 5 are still ssr types in the hal file. Should the 7i96s 'board name' now be an option?
The PC isn't connected to the 7i96s so I haven't tried the discovery option, however, that was a fail the last time I tried on the last v2.9 build I had (that I installed within the last 3 weeks), for some reason only some of the IO was accessible after discovery.
What am I missing??
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						25 Oct 2022 09:25				#255007
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				Replied by phillc54 on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				Yes, 7i96S should be an option.
Maybe try "make clean" before "make".
Did you run rip-environment before starting LinuxCNC?
					Maybe try "make clean" before "make".
Did you run rip-environment before starting LinuxCNC?
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						25 Oct 2022 09:36				#255009
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				Replied by kazafog on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				OK, I will try the make clean option.
Please forgive me for any silly questions as I am extremely green on both the linux and linuxcnc front. Commandlines for everything really doesn't help my already poor memory to retain much.
BTW I did run rip-environment, could that cause any issue?
thank you for your help
					Please forgive me for any silly questions as I am extremely green on both the linux and linuxcnc front. Commandlines for everything really doesn't help my already poor memory to retain much.
BTW I did run rip-environment, could that cause any issue?
thank you for your help
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						25 Oct 2022 11:00				#255017
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				Replied by kazafog on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				Well, i must be doing something wrong. I did these commands earlier today to try to update to the latest 2.9
$ git clone github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
$ cd linuxcnc-dev/src
$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure --with-realtime=uspace
$ make
$ sudo make setuid
$ source ../scripts/rip-environment
$ runtests
Without any issues other than a pdf that couldn't be found.
And just now I did the following
$ make clean
$ make
$ sudo make setuid
$ source ../scripts/rip-environment
$ runtests
And I still don't have a 7i96s option. What am I missing, I am totally lost? I used the procedure above to originally install the only difference being that I had to install some dependencies that were missing.
I do have an error regarding no hostmot2 firmware downloaded when running, pncconf, but I read something about it not being active anymore.
Could this be related?
					$ git clone github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev
$ cd linuxcnc-dev/src
$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure --with-realtime=uspace
$ make
$ sudo make setuid
$ source ../scripts/rip-environment
$ runtests
Without any issues other than a pdf that couldn't be found.
And just now I did the following
$ make clean
$ make
$ sudo make setuid
$ source ../scripts/rip-environment
$ runtests
And I still don't have a 7i96s option. What am I missing, I am totally lost? I used the procedure above to originally install the only difference being that I had to install some dependencies that were missing.
I do have an error regarding no hostmot2 firmware downloaded when running, pncconf, but I read something about it not being active anymore.
Could this be related?
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						25 Oct 2022 11:12				#255018
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				Replied by phillc54 on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				That is just a warning that doesn't apply to cards that have the firmware on board.
So you run PnCconf in the same terminal that you ran:
$ source ../scripts/rip-environmentand there is no 7i96s?
You don't need " --with-realtime=uspace" any more either but that will have no effect on this issue.
					So you run PnCconf in the same terminal that you ran:
$ source ../scripts/rip-environmentand there is no 7i96s?
You don't need " --with-realtime=uspace" any more either but that will have no effect on this issue.
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						25 Oct 2022 11:14				#255019
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Are you sure you are running the "run in place" installation and the the buildbot/included one?
You are installing and updating the run in place version, starting it is done from the terminal, not from the menu.			
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
				Replied by tommylight on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			No, the warning is for firmware used on older Mesa boards.I do have an error regarding no hostmot2 firmware downloaded when running, pncconf, but I read something about it not being active anymore.
Could this be related?
Are you sure you are running the "run in place" installation and the the buildbot/included one?
You are installing and updating the run in place version, starting it is done from the terminal, not from the menu.
source ../scripts/rip-environment
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						25 Oct 2022 11:36				#255020
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				Replied by kazafog on topic Mesa 7i96s - output 4 and 5 do not exist			
			
				There you have it, I feel stupid, I never even realised that the RIP needed to be run from terminal. So clearly I have a heap more reading to do.
Thanks for your help and time, cheers
					Thanks for your help and time, cheers
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