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16 May 2024 18:51 #300774
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hello everyone, I would like to ask if there is a basic, logistic and graphical document for the installation of LinuxCNC?
LinuxCNC is a challenge that I am happy to take on - I am only learning as I go. However, I have not yet been able to get a picture of a basic structure with dependencies of LinuxCNC. I don't think this is easy either, as LinuxCNC can be used very individually. As a beginner, I've been working on the configuration of LinuxCNC for a long time and what I'm missing and couldn't find anywhere, but I've already asked several times, is whether there isn't some kind of graphical overview of what is important for the installation and configuration. Above all, I am missing an overview of what depends on what. I think it's great and I'm very grateful when cracks here in the forum help me with errors. but I would also like to know why the errors occur, which I can only understand when I get it explained. It's understandable that you spend your free time on this, which I really appreciate, and an explanation would take even more time.
Specifically - what I am missing in order to learn the connections between hardware and software at will is a logistical graphic from which I could see what I need for the installation, configuration and operation of a CNC machine with LinuxCNC.
For the milling machine I am currently setting up, it would be great to be able to see a graphical document, in addition to the LinuxCNC manual and countless YouTube channels, which parameters are necessary to get a machine up and running.
Of course, it is possible that this already exists, but I have already asked questions in this direction in the forum but have not received an answer. Perhaps it already exists and I have simply overlooked it or not yet found it?
For example, I imagine for mine and other machines how LinuxCNC is related to PncConf and the HAL and INI files and what dependencies exist. I also think it's important that it's clear what needs to be in place first so that step-by-step processing is possible. I am aware that there are hundreds of different applications, but isn't it possible to create a basic graphic? It would help me a lot at the moment to see how I can connect with PncConf, the HAL, INI and BIT files and the Mesa cards 7i76 and 7i92H so that the machine can get up and running as quickly as possible?
Is this possible?
LinuxCNC is a challenge that I am happy to take on - I am only learning as I go. However, I have not yet been able to get a picture of a basic structure with dependencies of LinuxCNC. I don't think this is easy either, as LinuxCNC can be used very individually. As a beginner, I've been working on the configuration of LinuxCNC for a long time and what I'm missing and couldn't find anywhere, but I've already asked several times, is whether there isn't some kind of graphical overview of what is important for the installation and configuration. Above all, I am missing an overview of what depends on what. I think it's great and I'm very grateful when cracks here in the forum help me with errors. but I would also like to know why the errors occur, which I can only understand when I get it explained. It's understandable that you spend your free time on this, which I really appreciate, and an explanation would take even more time.
Specifically - what I am missing in order to learn the connections between hardware and software at will is a logistical graphic from which I could see what I need for the installation, configuration and operation of a CNC machine with LinuxCNC.
For the milling machine I am currently setting up, it would be great to be able to see a graphical document, in addition to the LinuxCNC manual and countless YouTube channels, which parameters are necessary to get a machine up and running.
Of course, it is possible that this already exists, but I have already asked questions in this direction in the forum but have not received an answer. Perhaps it already exists and I have simply overlooked it or not yet found it?
For example, I imagine for mine and other machines how LinuxCNC is related to PncConf and the HAL and INI files and what dependencies exist. I also think it's important that it's clear what needs to be in place first so that step-by-step processing is possible. I am aware that there are hundreds of different applications, but isn't it possible to create a basic graphic? It would help me a lot at the moment to see how I can connect with PncConf, the HAL, INI and BIT files and the Mesa cards 7i76 and 7i92H so that the machine can get up and running as quickly as possible?
Is this possible?
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17 May 2024 03:46 #300796
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PncConf is only really used to get a basic setup, after the basic config is done some hand editing will be required, after you have your setup PncConf is not really required . Look I've had my mill up and running for at least 4 years or so and I'm still learning new things.
The bit files are for the FPGA card, usually this is a one off thing, for configuring the FPGA with the required functions. Creating bitfiles is not a normal user task, tho one can do this. If a "custom" bitfile is required PCW will build one for you or advise you if a standard one will suit. To program the FPGA you'll need to fire up mesaflash. This has been covered many times on the forum.
If using the parallel port only & software stepping bitfiles are not involved.
The ini file basically has the variables required, some are then used in the hal file.
The hal file basically is where the various components are "connected".
A lot of this can actually be discovered by reading the docs. There are lots of graphics there.
The thing is that there are that many combinations of the various Mesa cards. The first step is, once again, reading the manuals for the cards. The Mesa site also provides some great info on the product page of each card.
Tho not exactly correct, but using a programming simile, the ini file can be thought of the include file and the hal file as the source code and Linuxcnc can be thought of the interpreter.
This is likely to have people pulling their hair out.
The bit files are for the FPGA card, usually this is a one off thing, for configuring the FPGA with the required functions. Creating bitfiles is not a normal user task, tho one can do this. If a "custom" bitfile is required PCW will build one for you or advise you if a standard one will suit. To program the FPGA you'll need to fire up mesaflash. This has been covered many times on the forum.
If using the parallel port only & software stepping bitfiles are not involved.
The ini file basically has the variables required, some are then used in the hal file.
The hal file basically is where the various components are "connected".
A lot of this can actually be discovered by reading the docs. There are lots of graphics there.
The thing is that there are that many combinations of the various Mesa cards. The first step is, once again, reading the manuals for the cards. The Mesa site also provides some great info on the product page of each card.
Tho not exactly correct, but using a programming simile, the ini file can be thought of the include file and the hal file as the source code and Linuxcnc can be thought of the interpreter.
This is likely to have people pulling their hair out.
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17 May 2024 05:36 #300802
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Thank you very much for your feedback. With the exception of a few statements, you confirm what I said above and my current level of knowledge, which I am of course very pleased about.
It was not my intention to say that I would prefer a graphical representation to set up "once" and that's it - no, I am well aware of what it can mean to get involved in a project like the one I am currently working on.
My thing is mechanical and motor engineering with electrotechnical applications that are far less in-depth than LinuxCNC.
I got involved with this project on purpose and mainly to learn - and indeed it is challenging me, now less because of the amount to learn, but more because I put myself under time pressure and try to find my way where I see ways that lead to the goal if possible.
I will gladly take your advice with PCW. Yes, as I mentioned, the applications are very diverse. You see this much better, as you are probably confronted with it every day?
... I'm still a long way from tearing my hair out.
I think I'm at a point that's not far removed from the interplay of the points I'm addressing. In retrospect, when it starts to work, I'll probably say - aha, that's how it is ;o) But that's usually not true.
Well, if my question was a rather nonsensical one, then I will take a different path. Thank you very much for your feedback!
However, I will try to create a graphical representation of my project and post it here in the LinuxCNC forum as an example, which can be useful to others for an overview.
Best thanks and regards
Claude
It was not my intention to say that I would prefer a graphical representation to set up "once" and that's it - no, I am well aware of what it can mean to get involved in a project like the one I am currently working on.
My thing is mechanical and motor engineering with electrotechnical applications that are far less in-depth than LinuxCNC.
I got involved with this project on purpose and mainly to learn - and indeed it is challenging me, now less because of the amount to learn, but more because I put myself under time pressure and try to find my way where I see ways that lead to the goal if possible.
I will gladly take your advice with PCW. Yes, as I mentioned, the applications are very diverse. You see this much better, as you are probably confronted with it every day?
... I'm still a long way from tearing my hair out.
I think I'm at a point that's not far removed from the interplay of the points I'm addressing. In retrospect, when it starts to work, I'll probably say - aha, that's how it is ;o) But that's usually not true.
Well, if my question was a rather nonsensical one, then I will take a different path. Thank you very much for your feedback!
However, I will try to create a graphical representation of my project and post it here in the LinuxCNC forum as an example, which can be useful to others for an overview.
Best thanks and regards
Claude
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17 May 2024 08:58 #300808
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Nah I'm just curious and tend to read the docs from time to time. Experimenting with the various tools helps.
Also I tend to experiment with one thing at a time, rather than trying everything all at once.
Also I tend to experiment with one thing at a time, rather than trying everything all at once.
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17 May 2024 13:08 #300825
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As an option to pncconf I have the Mesa Configuration Tool.
gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/mesact/index.html
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gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/mesact/index.html
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17 May 2024 19:17 #300856
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Thank you very much for your useful suggestion/reference ;o)
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